Fic: The New Frontier II: Day Of Infamy (1/1)

[bradygirl_12]

Title: The New Frontier II: Day Of Infamy (1/1)
Author: BradyGirl_12
Pairings/Characters: Steve/Tony (Pre-Slash), Clint Barton, mention of the Avengers.
Genre: Drama
Rating: PG-13
Warnings: None
Spoilers: None
Summary: When Tony notices the date on the calendar, he understands why Steve is so quiet.
Date Of Completion: December 7, 2007
Date Of

Comments

[elspethdixon]

Ahaha! I love the reference to Timely Comics (Since Steve was indeed "working" at Timely Comics in 1942, given that Captain America debuted in 1941 ^_^).

I think I said this with the last ficlet, but it's really neat to see Avengers fics set in the 1960s, and I especially like the way you incorporate historical background in.

Despite the depression that Steve frequently suffered, he was the most upbeat person that Tony knew.

One tiny quibble: I'm not sure that "depression" is quite the right word. Maybe something about Steve trying to adjust to a new time/acting subdued/moping/having nightmares? Steve definitely had ptsd in the early Tales of Suspense/Avengers days, and he moped around some, especially after Tony left the team, but I swear it's been commented on by other characters that Steve rarely gets depressed (*grins* As opposed to Tony, who's had textbook -- and textual -- clinical depression symptoms since about 1963).

[bradygirl_12]

Ahaha! I love the reference to Timely Comics (Since Steve was indeed "working" at Timely Comics in 1942, given that Captain America debuted in 1941 ^_^).

Had to get that in there! :)

I think I said this with the last ficlet, but it's really neat to see Avengers fics set in the 1960s, and I especially like the way you incorporate historical background in.

Thank you! I enjoy doing it. :)

Despite the depression that Steve frequently suffered, he was the most upbeat person that Tony knew.

One tiny quibble: I'm not sure that "depression" is quite the right word. Maybe something about Steve trying to adjust to a new time/acting subdued/moping/having nightmares? Steve definitely had ptsd in the early Tales of Suspense/Avengers days, and he moped around some, especially after Tony left the team, but I swear it's been commented on by other characters that Steve rarely gets depressed (*grins* As opposed to Tony, who's had textbook -- and textual -- clinical depression symptoms since about 1963).Perhaps Tony is viewing Steve through his own

[elspethdixon]

I do think, however, that Steve could have suffered depressed feelings, if not clinical depression, at least during these early days of adjustment. As he learned more about his new world and began to feel as if he fit in more, that depression and/or unhappiness lessened as the years passed.

*nods* That makes sense, as does Tony viewing Steve through the filter of his own experiences. Steve was definitely screwed up in the early post-unfreezing days (and I might have been putting this fic slightly later in timeline than it's actually set). I guess I automatically, when reading Marvel fic with Tony in it, tend to think of the longterm clinical psychological disorder when I see the word "depression," and forget that it's also used to mean "general sadness and/or unhappiness."

[bradygirl_12]

I do think, however, that Steve could have suffered depressed feelings, if not clinical depression, at least during these early days of adjustment. As he learned more about his new world and began to feel as if he fit in more, that depression and/or unhappiness lessened as the years passed.

*nods* That makes sense, as does Tony viewing Steve through the filter of his own experiences. Steve was definitely screwed up in the early post-unfreezing days (and I might have been putting this fic slightly later in timeline than it's actually set). I guess I automatically, when reading Marvel fic with Tony in it, tend to think of the longterm clinical psychological disorder when I see the word "depression," and forget that it's also used to mean "general sadness and/or unhappiness."

With so much talk about clinical depression nowadays, it is easy to forget that it's used for general sadness/unhappiness.

Poor Steve! It must have been tough for him when he was unfrozen. Talk about culture shock!

[seanchai]

This is really good, and very touching. I really like the interaction between Steve and Tony. I can totally see Steve being a little sad this time every year. Also, Clint! And Timely comics! The idea of Steve working as a comic artist is wonderfully fitting.

And the hand holding at the end :).

The only thing is, that past the first few months he was unfrozen, Steve canonically doesn't suffer from depression except under extreme circumstances, while Tony on the other hand, has canonically suffered from depression since 1963. Sorry if you don't want any concrit; this really is good, I'm just overly nitpicky about characterization.

[bradygirl_12]

This is really good, and very touching. I really like the interaction between Steve and Tony. I can totally see Steve being a little sad this time every year. Also, Clint! And Timely comics! The idea of Steve working as a comic artist is wonderfully fitting.

And the hand holding at the end :).

Heh, I got a kick out of mentioning Timely Comics and slipping in the hand holding. :)

The only thing is, that past the first few months he was unfrozen, Steve canonically doesn't suffer from depression except under extreme circumstances, while Tony on the other hand, has canonically suffered from depression since 1963. Sorry if you don't want any concrit; this really is good, I'm just overly nitpicky about characterization.

Interesting observations! I answered the same question up above.

Thanks for reading and commenting, Rosa! :)

[seanchai]

Okay that makes total sense. Both Tony viewing Steve through his own lens, and Steve getting better as the years go by, which is the important thing. My quibble is totally fixed now :).

[bradygirl_12]

Okay that makes total sense. Both Tony viewing Steve through his own lens, and Steve getting better as the years go by, which is the important thing. My quibble is totally fixed now :).

Excellent! :)

[crimsonquills]

This story actually made me tear up a bit, which I rarely do with fic. Wonderfully done emotion. The mention of Arnie made my slasher's ears perk up. :-) And, of course, I loved the hand-holding. *hugs the boys*

[bradygirl_12]

This story actually made me tear up a bit, which I rarely do with fic. Wonderfully done emotion.

A teary Quill! Thank you! :)

The mention of Arnie made my slasher's ears perk up. :-)

Of course! Love Arnie! :)

And, of course, I loved the hand-holding. *hugs the boys*

I wanted to throw a little sap in there. ;)

[megalotro]

Very touching :) I really like the reverent tone to the whole piece. Also really liked the hand squeeze :) Very nicely written :)

-Tro

[bradygirl_12]

Very touching :) I really like the reverent tone to the whole piece. Also really liked the hand squeeze :) Very nicely written :)

-Tro

Thank you kindly, Tro! :)

December 7, 1941, is one of those watershed moments in American history, and I wanted to write about that today.

[demon_faith]

Aww. I love Steve/Tony and this was good stuff.

I'd weird though to even consider this date. TBH, in Europe, we don't really think about it much. For us, September 1st is more significant but the only date we pay particular attention to is November 11th.

It's good to get a different perspective now and then.

[bradygirl_12]

Aww. I love Steve/Tony and this was good stuff.

Thank you, Faith! :)

I'd weird though to even consider this date. TBH, in Europe, we don't really think about it much. For us, September 1st is more significant but the only date we pay particular attention to is November 11th.

Not so surprising! September 1st was when World War II started in Europe, and November 11th is the last day of World War I.

We observe November 11th here as Veterans' Day (also known as Armistice Day) and also observe Memorial Day, once upon a time observed always on May 30th (my sister's birthday!) but now on a Monday closest to that date. Memorial Day grew out of the American Civil War and the decoration of solder's graves after that conflict. It's also known as Decoration Day in the American South.

And, naturally, December 7th has been a big date here because it brought us into the War. Not all the calendars you can buy here have it marked, but you'd be surprised by how many do have 'Pearl Harbor Day' listed.

It's good to get a different perspective