You are not the only one regarding Iris. She was completely rude during the dinner and she was horrible to Eddie in this episode. Barry's explanation was perfectly reasonable as to why he wouldn't want to talk about it and for her to demand that he tell her or she walks was over the top. Especially that she not only threw that hissy fit at dinner, but she went out of her way to go to his place of employment to give him that ultimatum and essentially break things off was just completely inappropriate. And I don't mind women who stand up for themselves (I like them a lot) but they've had Iris act like a spoiled child who has no regard for anyone but herself and no sense of the right time and place for certain conversations, and that just grates on me
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Ranting perfectly OK! I am very disappointed in Roy leaving the show. He's always been a favorite of mine in comics or in the show. Maybe he can travel to Gotham and hook up with a certain bird. ;)
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that Iris is being selfish. Usually in a situation like the dinner, a man has an irritating habit of making a woman sound 'emotional', but she was in the wrong in this case. If I was Eddie, I wouldn't be happy with being presented with an ultimatum. That suggests that Iris would pull the same stuff in the future after they were married.
Thank you for letting me rant :) And perhaps Roy will find his way to Gotham in offscreenville. Or perhaps we'll get some guest appearances and because of that, they'll actually tell some good Roy stories instead of having him just there, because the character has taken a backseat far too often over the past few seasons
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I agree about poor Roy just stuck in the background most of the time. He needs more luv! :)
Ultimatums kill a relationship.
I find it interesting, too, that Joe and Barry seem to be okay with keeping this big secret from Iris while Eddie is giving her unconscious signals that he's stressed out about it.
She's also being unfair to Eddie by letting her feelings linger for Barry. If Eddie noticed (and he did at that bowling alley disaster date), then how would she like it if he demanded to know what was going on with her and Barry? And it'll sound like I'm picking on Iris, but is she being fair to Barry's girlfriend by pulling that bowling alley stunt? Both she and Eddie were very uncomfortable while Barry and Iris talked about their good times at the alley and basically just kind of ignored their dates.
I really think it's a CW thing. They cater to the twentysomething demographic and at that age, things are very black-and-white. The issue of honesty seems to be a huge deal, not only in the latest shows but in Smallville as well.
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Yeah, Iris managed to make Lana look reasonable. Well, not quite, but that's hyperbole was made for.
As for Arrow, that's what comes of not having a solid bad guy. They never really set up Ras properly, and of course Merlin has been a complete loss this season. And now they're paring down the Arrow clan?
Ra's will always be a Batman nemesis to me. The problem with Arrow is that they chose to be a Batman wannabe, ironic since Ollie has been always stuck with that moniker from the Golden Age onward (Arrow Cave, Arrow Car, Arrow Signal, ward as sidekick, rich guy who lost his parents, etc.). If they had made Ollie a person more in tune with his comics persona (at least pre-Reboot), they would have had a flawed hero who messed up but owned his mistakes and had a good sense of humor to boot. This brooding, self-flagellating mope is pure Bruce, not Ollie.
Getting rid of Roy is not a good thing. And killing Thea to subject her to the Lazarus Pit? She's going to become the Arrow Clan's version of Jason Todd. >:(
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Ranting perfectly OK! I am very disappointed in Roy leaving the show. He's always been a favorite of mine in comics or in the show. Maybe he can travel to Gotham and hook up with a certain bird. ;)
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that Iris is being selfish. Usually in a situation like the dinner, a man has an irritating habit of making a woman sound 'emotional', but she was in the wrong in this case. If I was Eddie, I wouldn't be happy with being presented with an ultimatum. That suggests that Iris would pull the same stuff in the future after they were married.
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Ultimatums kill a relationship.
I find it interesting, too, that Joe and Barry seem to be okay with keeping this big secret from Iris while Eddie is giving her unconscious signals that he's stressed out about it.
She's also being unfair to Eddie by letting her feelings linger for Barry. If Eddie noticed (and he did at that bowling alley disaster date), then how would she like it if he demanded to know what was going on with her and Barry? And it'll sound like I'm picking on Iris, but is she being fair to Barry's girlfriend by pulling that bowling alley stunt? Both she and Eddie were very uncomfortable while Barry and Iris talked about their good times at the alley and basically just kind of ignored their dates.
I really think it's a CW thing. They cater to the twentysomething demographic and at that age, things are very black-and-white. The issue of honesty seems to be a huge deal, not only in the latest shows but in Smallville as well. ( ... )
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As for Arrow, that's what comes of not having a solid bad guy. They never really set up Ras properly, and of course Merlin has been a complete loss this season. And now they're paring down the Arrow clan?
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Ra's will always be a Batman nemesis to me. The problem with Arrow is that they chose to be a Batman wannabe, ironic since Ollie has been always stuck with that moniker from the Golden Age onward (Arrow Cave, Arrow Car, Arrow Signal, ward as sidekick, rich guy who lost his parents, etc.). If they had made Ollie a person more in tune with his comics persona (at least pre-Reboot), they would have had a flawed hero who messed up but owned his mistakes and had a good sense of humor to boot. This brooding, self-flagellating mope is pure Bruce, not Ollie.
Getting rid of Roy is not a good thing. And killing Thea to subject her to the Lazarus Pit? She's going to become the Arrow Clan's version of Jason Todd. >:(
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