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pondhopper September 20 2015, 14:50:24 UTC
I was raised in a strict Polish Catholic family. I stopped practicing the Catholic faith when I became independent of my parents because I was sick of the attitudes and politics in the Church. I don't want to be anything else and if I'm not a Catholic I don't feel a need to search. I understand the Catholic Church better than any other and living here in Spain that comes in handy though I have to say that this is the most agnostic country I have ever seen. That's what comes of a dictatorship imposing an official religion on the citizens for 40 years...not to mention the earlier history of the Church here in Spain.

And yet, I love many of the Catholic Church's rites and traditions.
And I am, as you know, an ardent lover of the Holy Week traditions here.

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bobby1933 September 20 2015, 19:25:39 UTC
Yes, i hear you.

Religion, at least as a spiritual and humane thing, is not served by either support or opposition from the state. Nor is it served by allowing itself to be used as an instrument of social control.

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o_laila September 20 2015, 15:14:30 UTC
you just helped me make sense of how i relate to islam as a spirituality vs. Islam as a dogma/religion. I feel God/dess comes alive if I step away from the dogma and relate to the spirituality of islam as a universal concept. And I feel Allah is often created by Muslims into an anthropomorphic prison guard by strict adherence to dogma. Dogma can be a cage. Love for the Divine is better to be liberating like Light.

If that makes any sense....

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bobby1933 September 20 2015, 19:28:28 UTC
Yes. And to tell the truth, i was thinking about some of your recent postings as wrote some of what i wrote.

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o_laila September 21 2015, 13:56:42 UTC
i hope i will be able to put it all into words one day soon. right now it just sits heavy in my chest when i try to express it.

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