That had some seriously great stuff in it. The inference about Mary and Dean - if true - is fairly mind blowing. Which would answer some questions - like how Dean knew to turn around and go back to the apartment for Sam. A waking nightmare would certainly explain that neatly.
I've been thinking lately how much Dean and Sam's disfunctional fraternal relationship conforms to the Mary/John pattern, with Dean modeling Mary and Sam modeling John. Well, we knew that already, except now we know that John walked out on Mary as well, so it makes it work that much better.
So you are definitely right that having taken John off of his pedestal, Dean cannot move on without taking Mary off of hers as well. So Dean can finally live his own life and not keep on trying to finish what was her job.
I've been thinking lately how much Dean and Sam's disfunctional fraternal relationship conforms to the Mary/John pattern, with Dean modeling Mary and Sam modeling John. Well, we knew that already, except now we know that John walked out on Mary as well, so it makes it work that much better.
Yes. And poor Dean, he was too torn up to catch the inference in the examples they were living: the similarity between him comforting a left behind Mary and him losing Sam... that Sam still loved him. Nobody was there to give him a hug when Sam left, because Sam and John are too much alike to consider it a necessity.
Second inference: dreams notwithstanding, how about the way Dean continued to blame himself for losing his mother even after he absolved Sam of Jessica's loss.
In a sense, Dean will always feel the need to finish what Mary and John started. If the experience worked, he can function without the overwhelming guilt and indebtedness to his parents. It's just him and Sam, now.
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(relatedly, how is SAM so awesome? I mean really. *hands*
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DIS MAH FABREET WON EVAH!!!!!
And hey look, you ended with Morla, the Ancient One. she doesn't even care that she doesn't care.
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ARE YOU AT MY HOUSE YET? WHAT IS TAKING SO LONG?
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TY for some awesome thinky thoughts!! ♥!!!
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I am wordy with the rambling and am tangentially challenged.
You get a gold star for effort!
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I've been thinking lately how much Dean and Sam's disfunctional fraternal relationship conforms to the Mary/John pattern, with Dean modeling Mary and Sam modeling John. Well, we knew that already, except now we know that John walked out on Mary as well, so it makes it work that much better.
So you are definitely right that having taken John off of his pedestal, Dean cannot move on without taking Mary off of hers as well. So Dean can finally live his own life and not keep on trying to finish what was her job.
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Yes. And poor Dean, he was too torn up to catch the inference in the examples they were living: the similarity between him comforting a left behind Mary and him losing Sam... that Sam still loved him. Nobody was there to give him a hug when Sam left, because Sam and John are too much alike to consider it a necessity.
Second inference: dreams notwithstanding, how about the way Dean continued to blame himself for losing his mother even after he absolved Sam of Jessica's loss.
In a sense, Dean will always feel the need to finish what Mary and John started. If the experience worked, he can function without the overwhelming guilt and indebtedness to his parents. It's just him and Sam, now.
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