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So apparently Jiri, as well as Bashou and Buson, are now homeless. I got banned from Pokedressing for reasons that make no sense whatsoever.
Anyway, first off, here's what happened in loose order.
-I had a troll alerting me to some anon meme where someone said that they stopped RPing with my characters when they found out I was playing them.
-I posted a message to one of the Pokedressing mods about this because it's bad RPing to blur IC and OOC behavior. I got a reply and the ONLY thing I remember about it is that she said there wasn't much she could do because the comment had been anon. I then, in the process of weeding my inbox to take care of what I'd replied to on one account before switching to another, accidently deleted the comment notification. However, that doesn't really matter because I tried all three accounts to try to view the post the comment had been in and none of them showed the comment (it showed one was THERE, but none of my accounts could view it).
-A few days later, I posted to PokeUndressed asking what sort of martial art Bashou should know, and included a small paragraph, under a cut tag, asking the anon person not to blur IC and OOC and not to take their vendetta against me out on the characters I play. The mods tell me to delete this part, so I do the next morning. It had been up for maybe ten hours (the rest of the post remains).
-Then there's a Valentines Day plot where characters fall under a love potion. Bashou goes off into the woods with Mars, Buson attempts to chat up Sebastian, and Jirarudan, after striking out with Lugia, gets hot and heavy with Eusine. However, they'd only succeeded in taking Jiri's shirt off (and bear in mind he has another one underneath!) when the mods snipe in about "YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT PG-13!". I had commented to Eusine's player that we should take it to PMs soon.
Bear in mind that I was in the Pokedressing chat at the time, WITH the mods.
-Then during that, Eusine's player and I agreed that the two characters would disappear under the table. Immediately the mods leap in with the PG13 insistance again, so I sigh and say "since the mods don't get it, here's where we go to PM"
-I get a warning for that because I "insulted their intelligence". This leads to a shitstorm in the chat, and everyone I've shown the log to agrees that the mods got a bee in their bonnets, and are confused as to what I could have done to tick them off so much, including people who flat-out let me know when I'm being wanky.
-Today I get on and find that I've been banned from Pokedressing, from Pokeundressed, and from the mod's journal. They claim I slammed players ICly and OOCly, which I never did, and of course they never say who it was or when this happened. They also claim that someone told them that they wanted to be in the game but wouldn't because I was there. Apparently one person's vendetta is more important than the five people I brought to the game. Very nice, that. Good priorties.
-So I post to Bad Mods Suck about it and everyone comes out of the woodwork.
Anyway, here, for the record, is the full text of the chat about the incident, in case anyone wants to read it and decide for themselves. Comments are screened from non-friends, but only outright insults will be deleted.
[19:30] BlackjackRocket: you know, when I tell the other player that we'll take it to PMs, that kinda means that we're going to "fade to black" in the actual RP...
[19:30] chocolatenlemon: well, it isnt obvious
[19:30] coffeeandsteel: not in the slightest
[19:30] BlackjackRocket: I thought it was...
[19:30] chocolatenlemon: not at all.
[19:30] coffeeandsteel: nope
[19:30] BlackjackRocket: I thought that's pretty much stating it flat out...what needs to be said then?
[19:31] chocolatenlemon: i tihnk 'insert fade to black here' would've sufficed perfectly
[19:31] BlackjackRocket: well, it needs to get to that point first
[19:31] coffeeandsteel: well, i didn't know what you were up to
[19:31] BlackjackRocket: which means they have to get under the table first
[19:31] chocolatenlemon: 'taking it to pm's' doesn't really explicitly state that
[19:31] coffeeandsteel: not really
[19:31] coffeeandsteel: i thought it would've been easier just to make an off-comm thread and then go nuts with that and do whatever with it
[19:31] coffeeandsteel: so if you didn't want to fade to black, you didn't have to
[19:32] BlackjackRocket: well, you have me HERE, so I'm not sure why you posted in there
[19:32] chocolatenlemon: to make it known to eusine mun, too
[19:32] coffeeandsteel: exactly that
[19:32] BlackjackRocket: all right...he'd already PMed me too, but you didn't know that. But still
[19:33] coffeeandsteel: well, if it bothers you, i can delete the comments
[19:33] coffeeandsteel: but still
[19:33] coffeeandsteel: sex = off main comm
[19:33] coffeeandsteel: please.
[19:33] BlackjackRocket: yeah, it kinda looks like a lack of trust there
[19:33] BlackjackRocket: we're both aware of the rules
[19:33] coffeeandsteel: i have to make sure
[19:34] coffeeandsteel: i'm a mod, that's what we do.
[edit brief exchange having to do with something unrelated, during which time the warning for "insulting" them comes up]
[19:40] *** chocolatenlemon has left the chat.
[19:42] BlackjackRocket: ...um hi. You *didn't* get it, so I made it clear
[19:42] BlackjackRocket: how was that insulting?
[19:42] BlackjackRocket: I meant it neutrally
[19:42] coffeeandsteel: hm?
[19:42] BlackjackRocket: the mod comment
[19:42] coffeeandsteel: oh? *goes to see*
[19:42] BlackjackRocket: My header was "(and since the mods didn't get it, here's where we cut to PMs)"
[19:43] BlackjackRocket: I was told to consider it a warning for "insulting your intelligence"
[19:43] BlackjackRocket: if it'd been meant as an insult, I'd have said something like "ttly didn't get it"
[19:43] coffeeandsteel: well, no, i didn't understand your intentions
[19:43] BlackjackRocket: but I meant it insofar as the intent of the inital statement wasn't understood, which it wasn't
[19:43] coffeeandsteel: but it was rather unnecessary, don't you think?
[19:44] BlackjackRocket: I'm honestly not seeing how
[19:44] coffeeandsteel: well, don't forget
[19:44] *** chocolatenlemon has joined the chat.
[19:44] BlackjackRocket: I was sending it to the other player
[19:44] BlackjackRocket: just as you were
[19:44] coffeeandsteel: tone is very difficult to tell over the internet
[19:44] chocolatenlemon: HELLO yes i agree with this
[19:44] BlackjackRocket: yeah, and that's why I told you the words I'd have said if I'd meant it with any malice or insult
[19:44] coffeeandsteel: wb
[19:44] BlackjackRocket: but since I phrased it the way I did, I'm telling you that was meant as a neutral statment
[19:45] BlackjackRocket: because it *hadn't* been understood
[19:45] BlackjackRocket: so I was telling the other player "the mods didn't understand my signal, so this is where we're taking it off"
[19:45] BlackjackRocket: it was NOT an insult
[19:45] chocolatenlemon: it certainly came off as one~
[19:45] BlackjackRocket: I'm sorry if you took it as such, but that wasn't my intent in the least
[19:45] coffeeandsteel: well, i'm glad to hear so
[19:46] BlackjackRocket: as I said when you were off, if it had been an insult, I'd have said something like "they ttly don't get it"
[19:46] BlackjackRocket: and made it overly obvious that it was meant to be sarcastic or snarky
[19:46] chocolatenlemon: again, over the internet, the tone doesnt change a bit
[19:46] BlackjackRocket: depending on word choice it does, and that was a neutral word choice
[19:46] BlackjackRocket: I think you jumped the gun quite a bit there
[19:46] BlackjackRocket: especially when you have me right here to talk to me
[19:47] BlackjackRocket: you can ask me directly rather than posting an accusation for everyone to see
[19:49] BlackjackRocket: so I'm asking you to reverse the warning because nothing of the sort was meant by it
[19:50] chocolatenlemon: um, no. i'm not going to reverse the warning
[19:50] BlackjackRocket: why not? I already explained what i meant
[19:50] BlackjackRocket: You're the ones misunderstanding what I said
[19:50] BlackjackRocket: ergo, you by definition "didn't get it"
[19:50] BlackjackRocket: it's not a judgement
[19:51] BlackjackRocket: again, it's a neutral statement
[19:53] chocolatenlemon: well, you know~ its kind of like that time you went ahead and posted about the rp anon meme to PUD, when raine had specifically told you not to
[19:53] BlackjackRocket: And I explained about that as well--I have no memory of that ever being said to me because I can't access the post where it was made any more
[19:54] BlackjackRocket: I've tried all three accounts and I can't view it
[19:54] chocolatenlemon: sorry, but i'm not buying it. you would have got some form of notification, and been able to see the reply on the screened post
[19:54] coffeeandsteel: because i screened it
[19:54] BlackjackRocket: and I keep every single notification I get?
[19:54] chocolatenlemon: you should do
[19:54] BlackjackRocket: I see a reply is THERE on the screened post, but I can't open it
[19:54] coffeeandsteel: no but surely you get them and at least read them
[19:55] BlackjackRocket: yeah, but reading them and responding to them--with three accounts, something's going to get lost
[19:55] chocolatenlemon: nnnot really
[19:55] BlackjackRocket: I don't have the magical Firefox. I'm only logged in to one account at a time
[19:55] chocolatenlemon: and?
[19:56] BlackjackRocket: and so when I reply to one account's things, then I reply to another account's things, and then to the third account's things...well, I'm not going to keep every single notification around
[19:56] BlackjackRocket: especially when I can't reply to them or even view them any more
[19:56] BlackjackRocket: As I said, I can see that there's a screened post but nothing I do expands it
[19:56] chocolatenlemon: i just really, really, REALLY dont see how you wouldntve been able to see it
[19:57] BlackjackRocket: and I don't either. I'm not a computer wiz, nor an LJ wiz
[19:57] BlackjackRocket: but there you have it
[19:57] so transiently: fffffff /alive, rly
[19:57] so transiently: but
[19:57] coffeeandsteel: \o
[19:57] chocolatenlemon: not that it takes a computer wiz to open email or anything
[19:57] so transiently: shouldn't you have gotten it in your email or smth
[19:57] so transiently: or do you have them disabled
[19:57] coffeeandsteel: that's what i'd've thought
[19:58] coffeeandsteel: thats why i screened it
[19:58] BlackjackRocket: I already said that things get deleted
[19:58] chocolatenlemon: well then~ dont
[19:58] so transiently: on their own?
[19:58] chocolatenlemon: because you might miss something important
[19:58] so transiently: or do you delete them manually
[19:58] coffeeandsteel: because what happens on that post is between the person with the issue and me
[19:58] BlackjackRocket: *sigh* Here's what happens
[19:58] BlackjackRocket: it seems I really *do* have to be as obvious as I can be
[19:59] chocolatenlemon: uh oh~
[19:59] coffeeandsteel: no, look
[19:59] coffeeandsteel: i understand you didnt get the message
[19:59] BlackjackRocket: When I reply to one account's comments, I delete those notifications. But because I have two accounts in the same game *and* I don't know everyone's usernames, I have to read *everything* I get before I can reply to them. And that means that EVERYTHING shows as having been read
[19:59] coffeeandsteel: fine, i get that
[19:59] BlackjackRocket: and that means that sometimes I accidently delete things that I haven't replied to yet
[19:59] coffeeandsteel: but i dont have a clue what you were trying to achieve by posting that on pokeundressed
[20:00] BlackjackRocket: and either way i remembered that you HAD replied, so I went to your post again and tried to view it and nothing opened
[20:00] coffeeandsteel: surely it was obvious it would just make wank/drama
[20:00] chocolatenlemon: okay, so you dont now everyones usernames and it shows up as read etc
[20:00] BlackjackRocket: I saw the screened post, but nothing I did on any account would make it visible
[20:00] coffeeandsteel: and it says, quite clearly not to start those in the userinfo
[20:00] chocolatenlemon: i just tihnk you'd remember the username of the person who runs the place
[20:00] BlackjackRocket: Yes, but I didn't remember what account I'd used to make the comment
[20:00] BlackjackRocket: even then I tried all three of them and still couldn't view it
[20:01] BlackjackRocket: so even if the comment was still there, it would do me no good because the post itself doesn't display
[20:01] so transiently: okay, so you have three accounts
[20:01] BlackjackRocket: and as for causing wank/drama, if you notice I was as polite as I could be and never asked them to step forward or anything
[20:02] BlackjackRocket: It was more of a PSA than an "i'm calling you out" sort of thing
[20:02] so transiently: i have eleven for just pd alone, not counting my own personal journal, any comms i run, or past rp journals
[20:02] coffeeandsteel: i don't care, you brought up something that happened NOT IN THE COMMUNITY to the community
[20:02] so transiently: and i still manage to keep up with what replies i've recieved :/
[20:02] coffeeandsteel: it isn't the time or place for it, nor is it ever
[20:02] coffeeandsteel: if someone has a problem with you OOC, if STAYS ooc
[20:02] BlackjackRocket: but it INVOLVED the community, so ergo it was on topic or so I thought
[20:02] chocolatenlemon: by bringing up the anon meme you've potentially scared off new players. which btw is ttly not what we want
[20:02] BlackjackRocket: Yeah, but they were MAKING it IC and I was pointing out that that shou'dn't be gone
[20:02] BlackjackRocket: done
[20:03] so transiently: well, you know
[20:03] so transiently: it's a dressing room
[20:03] so transiently: there's no obligation to reply to anybody, for whatever reasons
[20:03] BlackjackRocket: dude, that post was up for maybe 10 hours. How many new players would we honestly get poking around in that amount of time?
[20:03] so transiently: i personally hate responding to people with crappy grammar
[20:03] chocolatenlemon: who knows? no one can say, but the point is, THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN
[20:03] BlackjackRocket: and it wouldn't scare me off, nor I think most people
[20:03] chocolatenlemon: everyone isn't 'most people'. all people are different
[20:04] chocolatenlemon: wouldnt've scared you off, sure whatevs. but it might've someone else
[20:04] BlackjackRocket: Yeah, and there might be people scared off by Sato posting three times yesterday in dear_mun about the game
[20:04] BlackjackRocket: or the enormous Amora posts
[20:04] chocolatenlemon: except dear_mun isnt the anon meme
[20:04] chocolatenlemon: dear_mun is very different
[20:04] so transiently: and amora's posts are in the comm itself
[20:04] coffeeandsteel: what i'm saying is
[20:04] BlackjackRocket: ...yeah? That's my POINT
[20:04] coffeeandsteel: the anon-meme is full of drama
[20:04] chocolatenlemon: so how would sato be scaring them off?
[20:04] coffeeandsteel: don't bring drama to pd
[20:04] chocolatenlemon: the point is
[20:04] so transiently: the anon meme is basically made for drama
[20:04] chocolatenlemon: the post you were talking about was full of wank and snark
[20:04] coffeeandsteel: i'm not having people start shit on my community
[20:04] coffeeandsteel: END OF
[20:05] chocolatenlemon: and um, dear_mun doesnt really
[20:05] BlackjackRocket: because if you look at dear_mun, it looks like pokedressing is full of drama
[20:05] chocolatenlemon: well
[20:05] chocolatenlemon: dare i say it
[20:05] so transiently: oh please
[20:05] chocolatenlemon: you're being a lightning rod for the drama
[20:05] coffeeandsteel: what
[20:05] BlackjackRocket: I don't understand any of this
[20:05] chocolatenlemon: looks like i have to be as obvious as i can~
[20:05] so transiently: pd, in regards to dear_mun, is no different from the huge multifandoms like
[20:05] so transiently: paradisa or amatomnes or what have you
[20:06] BlackjackRocket: When I made that post, I was thinking of it as being the internet equilvalent of "I'm going to turn my back and count to fifty and when I turn around I want the dollar bill back on my desk"
[20:06] chocolatenlemon: so wait, you wanted someone to own up and go "yeah that was me, sorry for being a douche"?
[20:06] BlackjackRocket: no
[20:06] coffeeandsteel: then what the hell did you expect?
[20:06] BlackjackRocket: I believe I even said that they don't have to identify themselves
[20:06] so transiently: so what exactly were you trying to accomplish
[20:07] coffeeandsteel: then why even bring it up?
[20:07] so transiently: if not a calling-out
[20:07] BlackjackRocket: I expected them to read it and think to themselves "yeah, I really *shouldn't* mix OOC drama with the game"
[20:07] BlackjackRocket: that was it
[20:07] BlackjackRocket: at least that was what I was hoping for
[20:07] so transiently: and why do you care so much? it's an anonymous meme, if someone trashes me on it i wouldn't care because they don't have the balls to say it to my face
[20:07] BlackjackRocket: because it ruins the game for everyone. It's called bad rping
[20:08] BlackjackRocket: bad_rpers_suck is full of reports of people exactly like that
[20:08] so transiently: uh, i don't see how it's ruined the game for anyone except for you.
[20:08] BlackjackRocket: and if I posted in there I suppose I'd be getting a warning too, riiiight?
[20:08] so transiently: if you haven't noticed, several recent posts have had ENORMOUS response
[20:08] BlackjackRocket: yeah, and?
[20:08] so transiently: how is that "ruining the game for everyone"
[20:08] BlackjackRocket: it's a figure of speech
[20:08] BlackjackRocket: man, I'm supposed to be the literal one
[20:09] so transiently: because as far as i know you're the only one getting butthurt over it
[20:09] BlackjackRocket: nice
[20:09] so transiently: well, that's what it sounds like to me
[20:10] BlackjackRocket: my god you guys, seriously. I play to have fun, not to be screamed at because I have to spell every last little thing out and I can't use figures of speech
[20:10] so transiently: and all raine and bex did was clarify that you need to take any smut off the main comm, because it wasn't obvious from your posts!
[20:10] so transiently: you're the one that's blowing this entirely out of proportion!
[20:11] BlackjackRocket: But we weren't GOING to have any smut on the main comm! None of it ever would have shown up! We were taking things out, under the table or wherever, my character guiding his character "away from prying eyes" (which I even had him SAY in as many words!)
[20:11] chocolatenlemon: which was under the table, rite?
[20:12] chocolatenlemon: for all we know you were still planning on going ahead with it on the main comm
[20:12] BlackjackRocket: as the other player pointed out to me upon this, "one of the Stevens was licking chocolate off a vibrator. Why not say anything about that?"
[20:12] so transiently: um, because that's not flat-out sex
[20:12] coffeeandsteel: that isn't sez
[20:12] coffeeandsteel: sex
[20:12] BlackjackRocket: nice assumption there. Very much lack of trust.
[20:12] chocolatenlemon: it isnt sez, either
[20:12] chocolatenlemon: mhmm
[20:12] chocolatenlemon: well, if you don't like it, there is an alternative
[20:13] so transiently: people can run around in their birthday suits because it's not flat-out sex
[20:13] so transiently: people can get cockblocked because it's not flat-out sex
[20:13] BlackjackRocket: as I said, I RP to have fun. And I'm going to be the bigger person and not have this affect IC interactions. But seriously, this chat is moronic.
So seriously, what the hell just happened? And anyone have a game that could use a delusional nutcase and two sadistic Rocket officers?
Anyway, first off, here's what happened in loose order.
-I had a troll alerting me to some anon meme where someone said that they stopped RPing with my characters when they found out I was playing them.
-I posted a message to one of the Pokedressing mods about this because it's bad RPing to blur IC and OOC behavior. I got a reply and the ONLY thing I remember about it is that she said there wasn't much she could do because the comment had been anon. I then, in the process of weeding my inbox to take care of what I'd replied to on one account before switching to another, accidently deleted the comment notification. However, that doesn't really matter because I tried all three accounts to try to view the post the comment had been in and none of them showed the comment (it showed one was THERE, but none of my accounts could view it).
-A few days later, I posted to PokeUndressed asking what sort of martial art Bashou should know, and included a small paragraph, under a cut tag, asking the anon person not to blur IC and OOC and not to take their vendetta against me out on the characters I play. The mods tell me to delete this part, so I do the next morning. It had been up for maybe ten hours (the rest of the post remains).
-Then there's a Valentines Day plot where characters fall under a love potion. Bashou goes off into the woods with Mars, Buson attempts to chat up Sebastian, and Jirarudan, after striking out with Lugia, gets hot and heavy with Eusine. However, they'd only succeeded in taking Jiri's shirt off (and bear in mind he has another one underneath!) when the mods snipe in about "YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT PG-13!". I had commented to Eusine's player that we should take it to PMs soon.
Bear in mind that I was in the Pokedressing chat at the time, WITH the mods.
-Then during that, Eusine's player and I agreed that the two characters would disappear under the table. Immediately the mods leap in with the PG13 insistance again, so I sigh and say "since the mods don't get it, here's where we go to PM"
-I get a warning for that because I "insulted their intelligence". This leads to a shitstorm in the chat, and everyone I've shown the log to agrees that the mods got a bee in their bonnets, and are confused as to what I could have done to tick them off so much, including people who flat-out let me know when I'm being wanky.
-Today I get on and find that I've been banned from Pokedressing, from Pokeundressed, and from the mod's journal. They claim I slammed players ICly and OOCly, which I never did, and of course they never say who it was or when this happened. They also claim that someone told them that they wanted to be in the game but wouldn't because I was there. Apparently one person's vendetta is more important than the five people I brought to the game. Very nice, that. Good priorties.
-So I post to Bad Mods Suck about it and everyone comes out of the woodwork.
Anyway, here, for the record, is the full text of the chat about the incident, in case anyone wants to read it and decide for themselves. Comments are screened from non-friends, but only outright insults will be deleted.
[19:30] BlackjackRocket: you know, when I tell the other player that we'll take it to PMs, that kinda means that we're going to "fade to black" in the actual RP...
[19:30] chocolatenlemon: well, it isnt obvious
[19:30] coffeeandsteel: not in the slightest
[19:30] BlackjackRocket: I thought it was...
[19:30] chocolatenlemon: not at all.
[19:30] coffeeandsteel: nope
[19:30] BlackjackRocket: I thought that's pretty much stating it flat out...what needs to be said then?
[19:31] chocolatenlemon: i tihnk 'insert fade to black here' would've sufficed perfectly
[19:31] BlackjackRocket: well, it needs to get to that point first
[19:31] coffeeandsteel: well, i didn't know what you were up to
[19:31] BlackjackRocket: which means they have to get under the table first
[19:31] chocolatenlemon: 'taking it to pm's' doesn't really explicitly state that
[19:31] coffeeandsteel: not really
[19:31] coffeeandsteel: i thought it would've been easier just to make an off-comm thread and then go nuts with that and do whatever with it
[19:31] coffeeandsteel: so if you didn't want to fade to black, you didn't have to
[19:32] BlackjackRocket: well, you have me HERE, so I'm not sure why you posted in there
[19:32] chocolatenlemon: to make it known to eusine mun, too
[19:32] coffeeandsteel: exactly that
[19:32] BlackjackRocket: all right...he'd already PMed me too, but you didn't know that. But still
[19:33] coffeeandsteel: well, if it bothers you, i can delete the comments
[19:33] coffeeandsteel: but still
[19:33] coffeeandsteel: sex = off main comm
[19:33] coffeeandsteel: please.
[19:33] BlackjackRocket: yeah, it kinda looks like a lack of trust there
[19:33] BlackjackRocket: we're both aware of the rules
[19:33] coffeeandsteel: i have to make sure
[19:34] coffeeandsteel: i'm a mod, that's what we do.
[edit brief exchange having to do with something unrelated, during which time the warning for "insulting" them comes up]
[19:40] *** chocolatenlemon has left the chat.
[19:42] BlackjackRocket: ...um hi. You *didn't* get it, so I made it clear
[19:42] BlackjackRocket: how was that insulting?
[19:42] BlackjackRocket: I meant it neutrally
[19:42] coffeeandsteel: hm?
[19:42] BlackjackRocket: the mod comment
[19:42] coffeeandsteel: oh? *goes to see*
[19:42] BlackjackRocket: My header was "(and since the mods didn't get it, here's where we cut to PMs)"
[19:43] BlackjackRocket: I was told to consider it a warning for "insulting your intelligence"
[19:43] BlackjackRocket: if it'd been meant as an insult, I'd have said something like "ttly didn't get it"
[19:43] coffeeandsteel: well, no, i didn't understand your intentions
[19:43] BlackjackRocket: but I meant it insofar as the intent of the inital statement wasn't understood, which it wasn't
[19:43] coffeeandsteel: but it was rather unnecessary, don't you think?
[19:44] BlackjackRocket: I'm honestly not seeing how
[19:44] coffeeandsteel: well, don't forget
[19:44] *** chocolatenlemon has joined the chat.
[19:44] BlackjackRocket: I was sending it to the other player
[19:44] BlackjackRocket: just as you were
[19:44] coffeeandsteel: tone is very difficult to tell over the internet
[19:44] chocolatenlemon: HELLO yes i agree with this
[19:44] BlackjackRocket: yeah, and that's why I told you the words I'd have said if I'd meant it with any malice or insult
[19:44] coffeeandsteel: wb
[19:44] BlackjackRocket: but since I phrased it the way I did, I'm telling you that was meant as a neutral statment
[19:45] BlackjackRocket: because it *hadn't* been understood
[19:45] BlackjackRocket: so I was telling the other player "the mods didn't understand my signal, so this is where we're taking it off"
[19:45] BlackjackRocket: it was NOT an insult
[19:45] chocolatenlemon: it certainly came off as one~
[19:45] BlackjackRocket: I'm sorry if you took it as such, but that wasn't my intent in the least
[19:45] coffeeandsteel: well, i'm glad to hear so
[19:46] BlackjackRocket: as I said when you were off, if it had been an insult, I'd have said something like "they ttly don't get it"
[19:46] BlackjackRocket: and made it overly obvious that it was meant to be sarcastic or snarky
[19:46] chocolatenlemon: again, over the internet, the tone doesnt change a bit
[19:46] BlackjackRocket: depending on word choice it does, and that was a neutral word choice
[19:46] BlackjackRocket: I think you jumped the gun quite a bit there
[19:46] BlackjackRocket: especially when you have me right here to talk to me
[19:47] BlackjackRocket: you can ask me directly rather than posting an accusation for everyone to see
[19:49] BlackjackRocket: so I'm asking you to reverse the warning because nothing of the sort was meant by it
[19:50] chocolatenlemon: um, no. i'm not going to reverse the warning
[19:50] BlackjackRocket: why not? I already explained what i meant
[19:50] BlackjackRocket: You're the ones misunderstanding what I said
[19:50] BlackjackRocket: ergo, you by definition "didn't get it"
[19:50] BlackjackRocket: it's not a judgement
[19:51] BlackjackRocket: again, it's a neutral statement
[19:53] chocolatenlemon: well, you know~ its kind of like that time you went ahead and posted about the rp anon meme to PUD, when raine had specifically told you not to
[19:53] BlackjackRocket: And I explained about that as well--I have no memory of that ever being said to me because I can't access the post where it was made any more
[19:54] BlackjackRocket: I've tried all three accounts and I can't view it
[19:54] chocolatenlemon: sorry, but i'm not buying it. you would have got some form of notification, and been able to see the reply on the screened post
[19:54] coffeeandsteel: because i screened it
[19:54] BlackjackRocket: and I keep every single notification I get?
[19:54] chocolatenlemon: you should do
[19:54] BlackjackRocket: I see a reply is THERE on the screened post, but I can't open it
[19:54] coffeeandsteel: no but surely you get them and at least read them
[19:55] BlackjackRocket: yeah, but reading them and responding to them--with three accounts, something's going to get lost
[19:55] chocolatenlemon: nnnot really
[19:55] BlackjackRocket: I don't have the magical Firefox. I'm only logged in to one account at a time
[19:55] chocolatenlemon: and?
[19:56] BlackjackRocket: and so when I reply to one account's things, then I reply to another account's things, and then to the third account's things...well, I'm not going to keep every single notification around
[19:56] BlackjackRocket: especially when I can't reply to them or even view them any more
[19:56] BlackjackRocket: As I said, I can see that there's a screened post but nothing I do expands it
[19:56] chocolatenlemon: i just really, really, REALLY dont see how you wouldntve been able to see it
[19:57] BlackjackRocket: and I don't either. I'm not a computer wiz, nor an LJ wiz
[19:57] BlackjackRocket: but there you have it
[19:57] so transiently: fffffff /alive, rly
[19:57] so transiently: but
[19:57] coffeeandsteel: \o
[19:57] chocolatenlemon: not that it takes a computer wiz to open email or anything
[19:57] so transiently: shouldn't you have gotten it in your email or smth
[19:57] so transiently: or do you have them disabled
[19:57] coffeeandsteel: that's what i'd've thought
[19:58] coffeeandsteel: thats why i screened it
[19:58] BlackjackRocket: I already said that things get deleted
[19:58] chocolatenlemon: well then~ dont
[19:58] so transiently: on their own?
[19:58] chocolatenlemon: because you might miss something important
[19:58] so transiently: or do you delete them manually
[19:58] coffeeandsteel: because what happens on that post is between the person with the issue and me
[19:58] BlackjackRocket: *sigh* Here's what happens
[19:58] BlackjackRocket: it seems I really *do* have to be as obvious as I can be
[19:59] chocolatenlemon: uh oh~
[19:59] coffeeandsteel: no, look
[19:59] coffeeandsteel: i understand you didnt get the message
[19:59] BlackjackRocket: When I reply to one account's comments, I delete those notifications. But because I have two accounts in the same game *and* I don't know everyone's usernames, I have to read *everything* I get before I can reply to them. And that means that EVERYTHING shows as having been read
[19:59] coffeeandsteel: fine, i get that
[19:59] BlackjackRocket: and that means that sometimes I accidently delete things that I haven't replied to yet
[19:59] coffeeandsteel: but i dont have a clue what you were trying to achieve by posting that on pokeundressed
[20:00] BlackjackRocket: and either way i remembered that you HAD replied, so I went to your post again and tried to view it and nothing opened
[20:00] coffeeandsteel: surely it was obvious it would just make wank/drama
[20:00] chocolatenlemon: okay, so you dont now everyones usernames and it shows up as read etc
[20:00] BlackjackRocket: I saw the screened post, but nothing I did on any account would make it visible
[20:00] coffeeandsteel: and it says, quite clearly not to start those in the userinfo
[20:00] chocolatenlemon: i just tihnk you'd remember the username of the person who runs the place
[20:00] BlackjackRocket: Yes, but I didn't remember what account I'd used to make the comment
[20:00] BlackjackRocket: even then I tried all three of them and still couldn't view it
[20:01] BlackjackRocket: so even if the comment was still there, it would do me no good because the post itself doesn't display
[20:01] so transiently: okay, so you have three accounts
[20:01] BlackjackRocket: and as for causing wank/drama, if you notice I was as polite as I could be and never asked them to step forward or anything
[20:02] BlackjackRocket: It was more of a PSA than an "i'm calling you out" sort of thing
[20:02] so transiently: i have eleven for just pd alone, not counting my own personal journal, any comms i run, or past rp journals
[20:02] coffeeandsteel: i don't care, you brought up something that happened NOT IN THE COMMUNITY to the community
[20:02] so transiently: and i still manage to keep up with what replies i've recieved :/
[20:02] coffeeandsteel: it isn't the time or place for it, nor is it ever
[20:02] coffeeandsteel: if someone has a problem with you OOC, if STAYS ooc
[20:02] BlackjackRocket: but it INVOLVED the community, so ergo it was on topic or so I thought
[20:02] chocolatenlemon: by bringing up the anon meme you've potentially scared off new players. which btw is ttly not what we want
[20:02] BlackjackRocket: Yeah, but they were MAKING it IC and I was pointing out that that shou'dn't be gone
[20:02] BlackjackRocket: done
[20:03] so transiently: well, you know
[20:03] so transiently: it's a dressing room
[20:03] so transiently: there's no obligation to reply to anybody, for whatever reasons
[20:03] BlackjackRocket: dude, that post was up for maybe 10 hours. How many new players would we honestly get poking around in that amount of time?
[20:03] so transiently: i personally hate responding to people with crappy grammar
[20:03] chocolatenlemon: who knows? no one can say, but the point is, THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN
[20:03] BlackjackRocket: and it wouldn't scare me off, nor I think most people
[20:03] chocolatenlemon: everyone isn't 'most people'. all people are different
[20:04] chocolatenlemon: wouldnt've scared you off, sure whatevs. but it might've someone else
[20:04] BlackjackRocket: Yeah, and there might be people scared off by Sato posting three times yesterday in dear_mun about the game
[20:04] BlackjackRocket: or the enormous Amora posts
[20:04] chocolatenlemon: except dear_mun isnt the anon meme
[20:04] chocolatenlemon: dear_mun is very different
[20:04] so transiently: and amora's posts are in the comm itself
[20:04] coffeeandsteel: what i'm saying is
[20:04] BlackjackRocket: ...yeah? That's my POINT
[20:04] coffeeandsteel: the anon-meme is full of drama
[20:04] chocolatenlemon: so how would sato be scaring them off?
[20:04] coffeeandsteel: don't bring drama to pd
[20:04] chocolatenlemon: the point is
[20:04] so transiently: the anon meme is basically made for drama
[20:04] chocolatenlemon: the post you were talking about was full of wank and snark
[20:04] coffeeandsteel: i'm not having people start shit on my community
[20:04] coffeeandsteel: END OF
[20:05] chocolatenlemon: and um, dear_mun doesnt really
[20:05] BlackjackRocket: because if you look at dear_mun, it looks like pokedressing is full of drama
[20:05] chocolatenlemon: well
[20:05] chocolatenlemon: dare i say it
[20:05] so transiently: oh please
[20:05] chocolatenlemon: you're being a lightning rod for the drama
[20:05] coffeeandsteel: what
[20:05] BlackjackRocket: I don't understand any of this
[20:05] chocolatenlemon: looks like i have to be as obvious as i can~
[20:05] so transiently: pd, in regards to dear_mun, is no different from the huge multifandoms like
[20:05] so transiently: paradisa or amatomnes or what have you
[20:06] BlackjackRocket: When I made that post, I was thinking of it as being the internet equilvalent of "I'm going to turn my back and count to fifty and when I turn around I want the dollar bill back on my desk"
[20:06] chocolatenlemon: so wait, you wanted someone to own up and go "yeah that was me, sorry for being a douche"?
[20:06] BlackjackRocket: no
[20:06] coffeeandsteel: then what the hell did you expect?
[20:06] BlackjackRocket: I believe I even said that they don't have to identify themselves
[20:06] so transiently: so what exactly were you trying to accomplish
[20:07] coffeeandsteel: then why even bring it up?
[20:07] so transiently: if not a calling-out
[20:07] BlackjackRocket: I expected them to read it and think to themselves "yeah, I really *shouldn't* mix OOC drama with the game"
[20:07] BlackjackRocket: that was it
[20:07] BlackjackRocket: at least that was what I was hoping for
[20:07] so transiently: and why do you care so much? it's an anonymous meme, if someone trashes me on it i wouldn't care because they don't have the balls to say it to my face
[20:07] BlackjackRocket: because it ruins the game for everyone. It's called bad rping
[20:08] BlackjackRocket: bad_rpers_suck is full of reports of people exactly like that
[20:08] so transiently: uh, i don't see how it's ruined the game for anyone except for you.
[20:08] BlackjackRocket: and if I posted in there I suppose I'd be getting a warning too, riiiight?
[20:08] so transiently: if you haven't noticed, several recent posts have had ENORMOUS response
[20:08] BlackjackRocket: yeah, and?
[20:08] so transiently: how is that "ruining the game for everyone"
[20:08] BlackjackRocket: it's a figure of speech
[20:08] BlackjackRocket: man, I'm supposed to be the literal one
[20:09] so transiently: because as far as i know you're the only one getting butthurt over it
[20:09] BlackjackRocket: nice
[20:09] so transiently: well, that's what it sounds like to me
[20:10] BlackjackRocket: my god you guys, seriously. I play to have fun, not to be screamed at because I have to spell every last little thing out and I can't use figures of speech
[20:10] so transiently: and all raine and bex did was clarify that you need to take any smut off the main comm, because it wasn't obvious from your posts!
[20:10] so transiently: you're the one that's blowing this entirely out of proportion!
[20:11] BlackjackRocket: But we weren't GOING to have any smut on the main comm! None of it ever would have shown up! We were taking things out, under the table or wherever, my character guiding his character "away from prying eyes" (which I even had him SAY in as many words!)
[20:11] chocolatenlemon: which was under the table, rite?
[20:12] chocolatenlemon: for all we know you were still planning on going ahead with it on the main comm
[20:12] BlackjackRocket: as the other player pointed out to me upon this, "one of the Stevens was licking chocolate off a vibrator. Why not say anything about that?"
[20:12] so transiently: um, because that's not flat-out sex
[20:12] coffeeandsteel: that isn't sez
[20:12] coffeeandsteel: sex
[20:12] BlackjackRocket: nice assumption there. Very much lack of trust.
[20:12] chocolatenlemon: it isnt sez, either
[20:12] chocolatenlemon: mhmm
[20:12] chocolatenlemon: well, if you don't like it, there is an alternative
[20:13] so transiently: people can run around in their birthday suits because it's not flat-out sex
[20:13] so transiently: people can get cockblocked because it's not flat-out sex
[20:13] BlackjackRocket: as I said, I RP to have fun. And I'm going to be the bigger person and not have this affect IC interactions. But seriously, this chat is moronic.
So seriously, what the hell just happened? And anyone have a game that could use a delusional nutcase and two sadistic Rocket officers?