Revisionist History or Just an Error?

[bigfootcountry]

So, I had a chance, finally, to look through the 4th edition D&D books yesterday, and it only took a couple of pages for me to find something that boggled, insulted, and disappointed me

Comments

[dungeon_grrrl]

It is, I am SURE, intentional, evil, revisionist history.

Those are what they still get money off of (mostly in the form of novels) that are old enough someone might believe it. thus, they pitch them as :first."

It's corporate lying, like any other money-first corporation.

[ericthecavalier]

I was going to say something intelligent here, but dungeon_grrrl's iconic boobies fascinated me and I completely forgot what I was going to say. I'm gettin' out of here before she tries to use a suggestion on me.

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"

[dungeon_grrrl]

He!

It happens. I *suggest* you get used to it...

[ericthecavalier]

Well, I rolled a natural 19 on my will save (this time, at least), but I've seen you around the Paizo boards a few times, and as you seem rather spiffy, I believe I will friend you anyway.

Besides. I'm a sucker for girls with their own dungeons. ;)

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"

[nellisir]

I think you mean Judges Guilde (Wilderlands), not Judge Dread (Dredd?). Judge Dread(sp) is a futuristic/comic book setting that was put out by Mongoose.

[bigfootcountry]

HA! I do! I'll go back and change that; thanks for the heads up!

[tendegreesbelow]

Judge Dredd is an old, old comic strip that ran in the UK's 2000AD magazine, actually, so its quite old (1977 was his first appearance!)

[mysticalforest]

I dunno, weren't they the first separate complete boxed campaign settings with the works? That's only my guess though because what everyone should realize is that the people who wrote the PH are neither incompetent nor evil, and given that, that leaves a different definition of what constitutes a campaign setting.

[bigfootcountry]

Nope. The World of Greyhawk boxed set came out in 1983, while the first Forgotten Realms boxed set came out in 1987. Given WotC's general treatment of Greyhawk, it's unfortunately VERY EASY to assume that it was a deliberate move to neglect any mention of Greyhawk. I still suspect that it was actually just an error born out of ignorance or because the sidebar was a last-minute addition to the game that wasn't fact-checked.

[mysticalforest]

Inside that box though was little more than a map and a booklet, as I recall. FR and DL were complete, with new rules, races, monsters, &c.—more of a soup-to-nuts approach than the Gazetteer provided. Perhaps that's what they meant?

[bigfootcountry]

Actually... inside that box was the same type of information that was in the FR box. Two large booklets and two poster maps.

Dragonlance, on the other hand, didn't have an actual game box type campaign settiing until AFTER the FR box. The first game product released for Dragonlance was the first adventure, DL1. It wasn't until DL5 that anything approaching a gazetteer-type product would appear, and that was just a very short 32 page or so folio.

[maliszew]

"Dedicated to the memory of E. Gary Gygax"

[therobfather]

Wizards has been trying to move away from Greyhawk for a long time. I have never figured out why except that FR sold more units they Greyhawk did or it was personal vendetta against Gary. You could also look at it this way, if they don't mention it, maybe no one will ask for supplments.