Question from the crowd: do the Big Good factions have awareness of some of the aforementioned big, dangerous locations and things and some measure of Plans for them? Or if you pointed the TSAB at the HiME star do they collectively go 'huh never seen that before, oh dear'?
The TSAB in specific doesn't know much of anything about Earth Problems.
As a general rule, it comes down to the org's flavor. As guardians of secrets and the notes of mystics of every stripe, the Magic Association will often have SOME idea of the big picture.
The Tuners, conversely, generally don't know and don't care, though individuals who are deep into a particular situation will obviously know more.
Real, org-level plans are another matter entirely, and are very rare. High-level individuals may have some ideas of what to do, but...
...well, frankly this is a genre where when that happens it's usually something that's getting in your way, rather than something that's on your side. See also Gil Graham's BRILLIANT PLAN for handling the Book of Darkness. Often, it will be down to the discretion of the folks on the ground (I.e., PCs.)
In the series, only HiMEs could see the HiME Star. Well, then and Nagi and the Obsidian Lord. Of course, there were no other supernatural things in that setting.
It still may be the case, since the reason they can see it is that their power is linked to it.
I'm pretty glad that this aspect of the genre is an actual thing on the game, because some series really take it to hilarious extremes without ever explaining why. And nerds being nerds, it can be hard for people to accept "that's the way it works, just roll with it" sometimes!
I've been brushing up on the Sailor Moon manga recently, and I love how it's treated as a SUPER BIG DEAL when Mamoru remarks that Usagi and Sailor Moon both have the same incredibly unique and hard-to-miss haircut. CLEARLY HE IS SOME KIND OF SUPER-WIZARD
Re: being a useful idiotunclejamJune 12 2011, 07:47:45 UTC
for "ooc world" read "mundane NPC world," i.e. if Sailor Jupiter blows up a youma with Ultimate Pikachu Blast and did not take elaborate pains to hide every trace, it does not lead to the world realizing that mutants magical girls Are Among Them.
Re: being a useful idiotdoomlimitJune 12 2011, 07:51:52 UTC
There is a secret extra function, which is
D. Allowing staff and players to introduce plot material that people logically probably would have noticed if there wasn't an actual cosmic force preventing you from doing so.
Well, there's a couple /precreated/ guys who do have that as their plan...in the long term. In the short term they're some of the subtlest people on the game.
So basically what I'm saying is that they'd get a couple confused editorials and maybe the town would slowly accept that there are monsters (without the intervening stage of JESUS CHRIST THERE ARE MONSTERS). Recognition Inhibition is the result of a wish from a demigoddess upon an artifact that may in fact be part of the cosmic machinery; you need something of comparable oomph to change that on a societal level.
Separate Post Because I Felt It Deserved Extra EmphasisdoomlimitJune 12 2011, 07:55:24 UTC
To put it another way:
Several generations of Pretty Cure villains do not give a flying fuck who sees them terrorizing the populace. Some of them announce their presence at full volume every time they enter the scene, and turn people into monsters in full view of the public.
The net effect of this is that eventually the town starts acting as if the biweekly monster attack is of about the same level as an earthquake in Southern California; unpleasant, something to take precaution against, but half the time the news barely mentions it as more than a blip.
I know I pretty much made a joke about it to start the comments, but what's the explanation for people who DO notice these kinds of things on a regular basis, and don't just shrug it off?
You mentioned it in the post proper, but I'd like to know what the in-theme reason for people, such as Chisame Hasegawa, who manage to notice these kinds of things right off the bat?
Well, evidence is mounting Chisame /herself/ may not be as normal as she wishes c___c
But beyond that, this is the point where I have to admit I can't write theme for every individual exception. XD It's magic! Sometimes people make their Will saves, is the answer. It's very rare, but some people do just /notice/ things. But usually, those people are going to go on to do something with that knowledge. Some random high school girl off the street is unlikely to be able to see past the blinders, not unless there's something in store for her.
I'm not going to call it destiny, because the thematic point of those individuals is usually rising to face a challenge they aren't prepared for, but...consider it genre convention, I guess?
I imagine the main thing is to not be a huge tool about it; don't go around outing every antagonist you see, don't orchestrate six month media strategies to force the public for obscure reasons, etc.
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And it's also not something anyone has records about, because it's never existed in the past.
(Also, it's practically indestructible barring another force with power enough to destroy all that exists.)
Don't know anything about the HiME Star, though.
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As a general rule, it comes down to the org's flavor. As guardians of secrets and the notes of mystics of every stripe, the Magic Association will often have SOME idea of the big picture.
The Tuners, conversely, generally don't know and don't care, though individuals who are deep into a particular situation will obviously know more.
Real, org-level plans are another matter entirely, and are very rare. High-level individuals may have some ideas of what to do, but...
...well, frankly this is a genre where when that happens it's usually something that's getting in your way, rather than something that's on your side. See also Gil Graham's BRILLIANT PLAN for handling the Book of Darkness. Often, it will be down to the discretion of the folks on the ground (I.e., PCs.)
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It still may be the case, since the reason they can see it is that their power is linked to it.
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I've been brushing up on the Sailor Moon manga recently, and I love how it's treated as a SUPER BIG DEAL when Mamoru remarks that Usagi and Sailor Moon both have the same incredibly unique and hard-to-miss haircut. CLEARLY HE IS SOME KIND OF SUPER-WIZARD
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D. Allowing staff and players to introduce plot material that people logically probably would have noticed if there wasn't an actual cosmic force preventing you from doing so.
Well, there's a couple /precreated/ guys who do have that as their plan...in the long term. In the short term they're some of the subtlest people on the game.
So basically what I'm saying is that they'd get a couple confused editorials and maybe the town would slowly accept that there are monsters (without the intervening stage of JESUS CHRIST THERE ARE MONSTERS). Recognition Inhibition is the result of a wish from a demigoddess upon an artifact that may in fact be part of the cosmic machinery; you need something of comparable oomph to change that on a societal level.
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Several generations of Pretty Cure villains do not give a flying fuck who sees them terrorizing the populace. Some of them announce their presence at full volume every time they enter the scene, and turn people into monsters in full view of the public.
The net effect of this is that eventually the town starts acting as if the biweekly monster attack is of about the same level as an earthquake in Southern California; unpleasant, something to take precaution against, but half the time the news barely mentions it as more than a blip.
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You mentioned it in the post proper, but I'd like to know what the in-theme reason for people, such as Chisame Hasegawa, who manage to notice these kinds of things right off the bat?
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But beyond that, this is the point where I have to admit I can't write theme for every individual exception. XD It's magic! Sometimes people make their Will saves, is the answer. It's very rare, but some people do just /notice/ things. But usually, those people are going to go on to do something with that knowledge. Some random high school girl off the street is unlikely to be able to see past the blinders, not unless there's something in store for her.
I'm not going to call it destiny, because the thematic point of those individuals is usually rising to face a challenge they aren't prepared for, but...consider it genre convention, I guess?
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