YEAH, THIS IS ABOUT WINCEST--IF THAT SQUICKS YOU? GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY JOURNAL!!!! >:O

Feb 28, 2007 21:35

Alright, I think that subject is sufficient enough warning ~.^ (You know, in case it was unclear before, or something XD)

For those of you who were not previously aware of the situation, there was an issue with fanwanking/anti-Wincest flaming in the original version of this post at wincest, which carried over into the cross-posting supernatural_tv, resulting in ( Read more... )

!supernatural, please excuse the professor voice, !! meta

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bessyboo March 1 2007, 23:42:49 UTC
*grin* Yay, Cat is finally coming around! ^^

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bessyboo March 2 2007, 01:43:46 UTC
Exactly--it's a step in the right direction ;P

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Delete this comment if you wish hushed_sirius March 1 2007, 05:09:10 UTC
Will your loyal LJ friends understand why you don't use an lj-cut? Will they understand not having a choice to read this post or not?

I respect your opinion on the subject matter, but I don't agree with it.

Yet I will defend your right to express your opinion.

Please, don't shove it in my face, Bess.

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Re: Delete this comment if you wish potthead March 1 2007, 05:18:39 UTC
Please, don't shove it in my face, Bess.
Just cuz she didn't put it behind a cut doesn't mean she's shoving it in your face.

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Re: Delete this comment if you wish sethra2000 March 1 2007, 17:04:38 UTC
Umm, hello. This is a personal LJ, which means she can do what she likes in it. The reader has to take the risk that they may see something they don't like.

Just want to say Bessy, I found your research facinating. I agree that Sam and Dean did not grow up in anything like normal cricumstnces. A friend told me about young people growing up on Kibutz's (sp?)and how even though they weren't related, they still thought of each other as sibblings, and couldn't think of the other person as potential husband/wife material because of that. The Winchester situation could be considered the opposite of that.

And apart from that, It's just plain HOT

Anyhoo, I Shall finish my early morning incoherency and shut up now.

Thanks for reposting and I hope the Wankery is few and far between.

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Re: Delete this comment if you wish bessyboo March 1 2007, 23:44:58 UTC
Yeah, the thing with the kids at the Kibbutz (2 'b's ~.^) is in the Wiki article on the Westermarck Effect ^^

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anonymous March 1 2007, 05:24:53 UTC
Thanks for re-posting this along with comments that were put up about it originally. (I'm the anon you listed here actually). I'm sorry you received wank from certain people. How frustrating. I don't actually have much to add that I didn't already say. I enjoy reading Wincest and I think hearing about how it's happened in reality makes for a good discussion ( ... )

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bessyboo March 2 2007, 00:11:42 UTC
Thank you very much for sharing all your thoughts, both here and at the post in supernatural_tv, and for being so polite about it. I really appreciate it ^^

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surrexi March 1 2007, 07:07:09 UTC
A cut might be nice :/

I mean, if you want to ship wincest, fine, have a party. But as a courtesy to those of us who are squicked by it but aren't trolls/assholes/bitches/etc about it, it might be nice if it were under a cut.

... because it really does squick me. A lot. *hides*

(PS plz don't defry me omg. heh.)

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bessyboo March 1 2007, 23:46:23 UTC
I'm sorry, it's cut now; see my above note >.>

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surrexi March 2 2007, 03:31:14 UTC
Thanks *huggles*

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bugchicklv March 1 2007, 07:27:24 UTC
I just can't believe this caught so much flack when you posted it IN THE WINCEST COMM. I mean, if they weren't there for the fic or meta, then WHY show up and troll? I mean, I don't read Sam/Jess and so I don't belong to any comm that might be devoted to it--which means I HAVE NO IDEA what the members are posting there! And I certainly wouldn't keep such a comm on my watch list just so I can show up and flame the posters.

What's happened to respect, courtesy and acceptance when it comes to fanfic? When did controversial pairings start becoming earth shattering headline news and potential new troll playgrounds...and stop being all about the pr0n?

Also, where's the people who love the show for what it is, and yet read/love/write Wincest? I PERSONALLY don't see all that much slash or UST in the show...but OMG it's just too wonderful an idea (and plausible given all the support in your research!) to abandon when it comes to fic. After all, isn't THAT what fanfic is for? To explore the whatifs and maybesos?

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bessyboo March 1 2007, 23:51:23 UTC
Well, I think the fanwankery started because I cross-posted it in supernatural_tv with a fake link to the post in the wincest comm. So a lot of the trolls ended up in wincest from the fake link, not because they were members.

But yeah, I agree that it's sad that our fandom has come to this.

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