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Nov 06, 2005 21:16

You thought I was kidding about how evil Hal Turner is?
You thought he's a simple ultra-right racist blowhard?

Well, read this about the 'rally' he's having soon. And yeah, I X'd out the details that he provided about where the family lives. )

angry, hal turner, action, hate

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kraven251 November 7 2005, 03:30:19 UTC
While I am all for free speech...as a fossil of a history teacher once said, "My right to free speech and expression ends as soon as my fist meets your nose."

This guy wants a confrontation of some sort. I am surprised law enforcement hasn't intervened someplace. Up to this point I didn't agree with what was being said , but believed in his right to say it. However now I think he needs to shut the hell up. This lil rally is going to be ugly, in ways that make riots look like picnics.

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zentiger November 7 2005, 04:05:54 UTC
What do you suggest we do, Ben? Seriously. Should we go to his rally and out-shout him? Should we decry and revile his message from soapboxes on street-corners?

Hal Turner does evil things. This is a good example. This point is not, as far as I know, in question. What I question is: how do you fight hatred? Fiery rhetoric and short stories about shooting mass murderers in dive bars don't make people hate less, no matter how stirring or well-presented.

Should we forbid the hateful from spewing their hate? From organizing groups to fight their particular targets? Do we bring to bear all our righteous anger, the fury of the wronged innocent? Righteous anger is a dangerous thing: it fuels our hatred of evil just as it fuels Hal Turner's hatred of "negroes".

Go on. Shout in the streets. Try to drown out the hate. But, in the end, an eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.

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iamangelachase November 7 2005, 04:13:50 UTC
But if everyone is blind, how can we tell who's who?

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zentiger November 7 2005, 04:16:07 UTC
That's easy. Braille nametags.

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iamangelachase November 7 2005, 04:26:38 UTC
Damn it, you think of everything.

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rinifer November 7 2005, 19:02:04 UTC
That's kinda how I feel. He's crossed the line from free speech into an area that is NOT constitutionally protected. At the very least the local authorities should be tipped off.

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