A Purely Selfish Reason For Not Wanting DH To Promote Gor...

Jul 25, 2007 13:45

tammy212 has a post on the ethical issues of promoting the Gorean worldview in which she points out that there are not just self-interested reasons as we women worry about encouraging a worldview that depicts us as "natural slaves", but that (shades of Kant) the Gorean mindset, as an exaggerated, valorized version of run-of-the-mill traditional patriarchy ( Read more... )

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gem225 July 26 2007, 01:40:33 UTC
*headdesk* oh nonono, the Gor books. I read some of them in college because my boyfriend and all of his friends adored them. The fanfic they could inspire is terrifying.

I go to throw up now.

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dryaunda July 26 2007, 03:52:47 UTC
On the plus side, think of the liberation/destruction of Gor crossovers!

One fic that springs to mind is a crossover based on Ghost in the Shell; Motoko as the rebellious ex-sex slave, Batou as the one sane warrior, and the Tachikoma played by the friendly spider people.

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nenya_kanadka July 26 2007, 04:15:26 UTC
Are there some fandoms which the PPC would refuse to police? Methinks we may have found one. I can't think that even the most sadistic of the Flowers That Be would inflict that canon on an agent... *shudder*

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megpie71 July 26 2007, 07:39:07 UTC
It's been a while since I looked at the PPC canon (such as it is) but I have a strong suspicion that the Department of Crossdimensional Snatching would have a fairly solid embargo on the place - Gorean characters are removed from any and all Earth locations with Extreme Prejudice and Very Big Weapons. Since Transdimensional hops are also policed by the Despatch team (along with the assassins from the Department of Mary Sues) the consensus is probably that anyone who hops over to Gor deserves what they get. They can go in. They can't come back out.

Meg (Despatch agent on long leave...)

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...and because the idea came to me... megpie71 July 26 2007, 07:54:29 UTC
"You're kidding." I looked at the paper in front of me, then up at the Hydrangea. "Emergency recall, to police the Gor continuum?"

"We're running low on staff, and it's very simple, after all."

I looked at my boss again, trying to figure out whether it was serious. On the one hand, it'd been polite enough about getting me the heck out of the LOTR section after my interest in that fandom had waned. Okay, I was the one and only staff member in the PPC assigned to Blake's 7, but that was no problem, since the fandom was largely a mature one. I'd almost forgotten how annoying the boss could be.

"Why Gor?" I asked. "It's not like I know anything about it."

"You don't have to," the Hydrangea said. "The Gor continuum is under embargo. If you see or find any one or anything coming out of it, shoot on sight.""Do I have to stick with authentic weapons?" I asked. What little I knew of Gor (as gleaned from cover art in the occasional tatty paperbacks I'd run across and ignored) implied a rather primitive weaponry standard. I can ( ... )

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Re: ...and because the idea came to me... nenya_kanadka July 31 2007, 23:07:21 UTC
Brava, brava! *claps*

I was going to say that it seemed a bit unfair to keep *everyone* who went it from coming out, because what about crossovers where canons from other universes got dimension-snatched? But then I realized that despite their best efforts, even fanwriters couldn't get the canon chars from most other universes to submit to Gor, so anyone calling themselves "Aragorn" or "Han Solo" or "Buffy" would probably actually be a Doppelganger!Sue, and all you'd have to do is go find the original canon, in whatever coat-closet/basement they'd been tied up in for the duration of the story.

--Agent Nenya and Agent Quen, long ago of the Mary Sues, Multiple Offenses, and Character Protection Services departments...

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Probably the only case where the fanfic is better than canon deiseach July 26 2007, 16:14:28 UTC
Because the sweet Lord knows, there is no conceivable way it could be worse.

Even the Gary Stus.

Worse - probably the only instance where the fandom is *improved* by the addition of a Mary Sue! ("So Mariella Suzannajha is, like, the Ubaress of Er-Um, and she rides a snow-white tarn that no-one else could tame, and she can beat any man in a fight armed or unarmed, and she's a musician and poetess and dancer and artist who speaks twelve languages and even the Kurii respect her and the Priest-Kings have made an alliance with her and and...")

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anna_wing July 27 2007, 12:06:04 UTC
If it's on another planet, then they could so fly to Dune and tame the Bene Gesserit!"

Surely I am not the only one with visions of the Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam inviting Gorean men ("this is the proof of your manhood, young warrior!") to submit their....hands ...to the gom jabbar.

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