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suesniffsglue October 30 2008, 00:00:35 UTC
Sometimes when you write about your view on Christianity/Jesus/Christian concept of God, I feel a good bit less alone. I had a horrible talk with Bobby (significant other) about Catholicism, which he doesn't believe in but was raised in and still for some reason follows and I just don't understand at all. I walked away from it feeling really alone spiritually. It was nice to come here later and read this. When you said you changed the words to the song because Jesus is not your king/ruler, but your friend, I felt my heart grow so much lighter.

I think I'm going to post in depth soon, maybe tonight, about my exact spiritual perspective, or as exact as I can make it.

Thanks for that, really. I know you didn't set out to do it, but you really improved my day! It was like a hug with words.

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suesniffsglue October 30 2008, 00:11:04 UTC
Also, I really liked the quiz. It gave me much to think about and also made a loooot of sense to me how it turned out!

1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2. Liberal Quakers (93%)
3. Neo-Pagan (90%)
4. Mahayana Buddhism (88%)
5. Reform Judaism (88%)
6. Theravada Buddhism (83%)
7. New Age (81%)
8. Baha'i Faith (80%)
9. Jainism (79%)
10. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (75%)
11. Sikhism (75%)
12. Orthodox Judaism (72%)
13. Hinduism (69%)
14. Orthodox Quaker (67%)
15. Islam (65%)
16. New Thought (64%)
17. Taoism (55%)
18. Scientology (55%)
19. Secular Humanism (53%)
20. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (47%)

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tralfamadore October 30 2008, 02:11:14 UTC
Oh my goodness, what a beautiful truth came from your questioning of the trees. I believe I said once in my journal that heartbreak comes from misunderstanding, and I think this is an incredible example of just that. You are so brave for questioning and asking for clarification about what happened, and it's wonderful that you were so willing to share your thoughts. What happened is unfortunate, but Pat's reasons and zir sorrow for engaging in the cutting down are wonderfully pure. And planting trees together with one another, OH! How absolutely magical of a thing to be able to share. Perhaps you could also now return to give thanks for the trees that did give their lives so that ze can live a more freed, brighter life ( ... )

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frecklestars October 30 2008, 02:32:23 UTC
If you are not permitted/encouraged to respond, challenge, question, then it's not learning, it's entertainment.

This is amazing. I want to post this on my wall.

The Quaker meeting sounds like it will be a good experience. I look forward to reading about it. :)

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smurfb1ue October 30 2008, 03:37:04 UTC
I'm glad you've found a group of potentially like-minded people to share your life with. The Quakers are actually a quite fascinating group ... my beliefs closely follow the Orthodox Quaker beliefs (like pacifism etc.) though I don't attend a Quaker church. Some friends of mine had a Quaker wedding several years back, and one of the main parts of the ceremony was a time of silence. Everyone was silent until both the bride and groom mutually decided to break the silence. It was very cool. Extremely hot, but a wonderful fifteen minutes in the wedding.

I also loved this: If you are not permitted/encouraged to respond, challenge, question, then it's not learning, it's entertainment. Too often, I think, church has become entertainment. It's goal isn't to facilitate learning and growth but to amuse. Religion as a whole seems to be about who can collect the most followers to their "cause" rather than speaking truth and love.

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bellerisa October 30 2008, 08:37:17 UTC
I am so relieved that you were able to have that talk with Pat and truly understand why what happened with the trees happened.

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