BSG 4.5 DVDs: Deleted Scenes!

Jun 01, 2009 22:56

Okay y'all. I got my 4.5 DVD box set today! Cus it came out today in the UK.

As usual it looks like the UK set is missing at least one awesome thing - and no I'm not talking about the webisodes, which, yes, it is also missing.

There's no extended cut of Islanded in a Stream of Stars. Which is weird because I was sure I saw a website's ( Read more... )

bsg, athena & helo adopt a six, deleted scenes, battlestar galactica, that dress is ridgoddamndiculous lady!

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callmeonetrack June 1 2009, 23:33:00 UTC
Thanks for the recap! I was curious...none of the descriptions excited me very much though. I would have liked more mutiny episode stuff. And Islanded stuff.

Re: Lee and Adama being alike...I think they both can be very stubborn, and self-centered at times, and cutting/cruel when they feel someone they love has disappointed them. The show tried to insinuate quite often that Lee was just like his father in both the military and the personal aspects (with their attraction to self-destructive alcoholic blondes in A Measure of Salvation) with varying degrees of success. Neither of them seem much alike and Zak seems like he comes from a different family altogether.

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beccatoria June 2 2009, 16:08:52 UTC
Well I think there is a lot more Islanded stuff except that for some reason we didn't get the extended edition :( So you may yet get your wish there.

I don't really see Lee and Adama as alike though. I know that the show tried to insinuate that similarity but I always felt it was far too forced the same way I always felt the show was trying to suggest that I should find Adama heroic instead of the idiotic ass I eventually decided that he was.

They are certainly both stubborn, but I think it's far more telling to look at what they are stubborn in service to. Adama is entirely self-centred in his value-sets, ideas of loyalty, and is stubborn when he doesn't get his way.

Lee is stubborn when he genuinely believes that there is a moral stand he needs to make. And it's rarely personal.

While yes, Lee can be a little petty and self-centred when he's hurting, I generally feel that he has a more...sane grasp of when someone's hurt him and when someone simply disagrees with him than Adama who takes everything personally. Lee ( ... )

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callmeonetrack June 2 2009, 16:12:06 UTC
Heh Whiny Luke Skywalker type. No, he's definitely Princess Leia. I think the places where the main four are similar and different are very interesting.

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pellucid June 1 2009, 23:51:16 UTC
Laura: *so quiet you almost can't hear* It's okay. *pause* I think that you should begin immediately, accompany me on all official business. But don't forget I'm not quite stepping aside yet. *small smile*

Lee: *small smile, slightly teasing* So you don't think I'm quite ready.

Laura: You're ready *big smile* *pause* *patented Mary McDonnell heartbreaking delivery as Laura almost breaks* I'm not.

Oh. My. God.

I think I mostly want to hurt people for NOT INCLUDING THIS IN THE FIRST CUT, OH YOU STUPID BASTARDS!!!!!!! And then I wonder whether it would have made any difference, ultimately.

Laura and Baltar in the raptor during BotS also sort of makes me want to flap my hands a bit.

I think in some ways I'd rather not know that these things were here and were then cut out in favor of, well, most of the things they were cut out in favor of. It's harder to think about how easily it might have been just a little bit better. *sigh*

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beccatoria June 2 2009, 16:14:24 UTC
I'm inclined to say, sadly, that it wouldn't have made that much difference. It was already a nice scene and while it would have been lovely to get more explicit confirmation that yes, she still feels responsibility to her role, she's not just trying to pass it off so she can run off cabinwards, but...we still would have gotten that Home speech. We still would have gotten...everything that made it fail.

I understand your ambivalence. In some ways I share it. But mostly, I think, since there was quite a lot of nice moments and relatively little fail here, it's nice that my last memories of watching "new" BSG are a little less fail-tinged. I didn't realise...how little Mary McDonnell got to really act or how much I missed it until I saw her break-down-but-not-really-while-smiling here. *snuffle*

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beccatoria June 2 2009, 16:30:28 UTC
NO. THAT REALLY HAPPENED.

The only place where I even slightly elaborated was the eyeroll, which might have just been a patented *I don't know whether to be exasperated or terrified* Gaius Face. But I mean, that's as good as an eyeroll, right?

To be honest, I didn't really notice that about Tory's scene. I mean, you're right, but I guess I was just so relieved and grateful to see a scene about Tory, and what's more, one where we are invited to feel sympathy for her (!) that I don't care? Also I kind of like the whole Cavil As Evil Jackass retcon so it was more of that?

Perhaps another of those moments ruined by the context of everything else *sigh*

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nicole_anell June 2 2009, 00:43:28 UTC
Aaaah, you are so fabulous for posting this! I've been waiting all day! :D

MUST SEE THE SCENE WHERE ATHENA ADOPTS RANDOM SIX, LIKE, NOW. And the Roslin/Baltar awesomeness. And HeadSix's gorgeous and yet completely ridiculous dress. <3

Lee: *in this hilariously awkward, I'm-Being-Friendly-But-We-All-Know-I'm-Not tone* This is a significant reunion. We feel we should be here.

Ellen: In case we all join hands and shoot magic fireworks out of our asses?
*snerk*

I'm disappointed that the bit of Gina in "Daybreak" vaguely promised by the Prop Auction is not there. (There was a costume being auctioned that said it was from a deleted "Daybreak" scene where Boomer encounters Gina, pre-attacks and sleeper-agenting and everything. *helpless flail*)

Again, you rock for posting all this.

ETA: Anyway, Tigh wants to know what she's doing cus she shouldn't be "out here," I dunno. Out of her cage or whatever.Eh, to be fair I'm sure it's equal parts "ohcrap, now I have to worry about you running into me and Ellen" and actual concern that she ( ... )

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beccatoria June 2 2009, 16:36:33 UTC
Don't worry I'll be hooking most of you up soon. ;)

I am SO GLAD I am not the only one who loves the rigoddamndiculous dress.

And, wait, what? GINA WHAT?! Dammit, first no Ellen speech now they deprive me of GINA?! Being all sleeper agenty at Boomer?! This is unfair.

I'm hoping that maybe they're going to use it in The Plan? I know that they're using alternate shots and deleted scenes in it so...maybe? *crosses fingers* Unless it was never shot I can't think of any reason not to include it.

Eh, to be fair I'm sure it's equal parts "ohcrap, now I have to worry about you running into me and Ellen" and actual concern that she just got attacked for being in the wrong part of the ship.

Yeah, I confess I was being cranky and sarky at that point. And bitter that I no longer love Tigh with the crazy love I used to have for him. If pressed I think I'd even say that he was more concerned about her getting punked again.

And you're very welcome!

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nicole_anell June 2 2009, 17:06:20 UTC
GINA WHAT?! Dammit, first no Ellen speech now they deprive me of GINA?!
*feels your pain omg* Now that I've (ahem) seen a couple of these scenes myself, I was guessing Gina was the one who met her at the academy. Although that doesn't quite wash with Gina being a civilian recruit, so I dunno.

Edit: Should you feel the urge to hook a sister up, one thing that has not made its way onto the internet yet is the WTF Grecian Dress scenes.

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greycoupon June 2 2009, 17:13:16 UTC
Hold on.

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asta77 June 2 2009, 01:06:54 UTC
maybe Cally picked up on something when she accused them of having an affair.I hadn't reconsidered the scenes between Tyrol and Tory and Cally's view of their interactions in light of the revelation of a relationship between the two in their previous life. It makes Cally come off a slightly less irrational ( ... )

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beccatoria June 2 2009, 16:54:56 UTC
I hadn't reconsidered the scenes between Tyrol and Tory and Cally's view of their interactions in light of the revelation of a relationship between the two in their previous life. It makes Cally come off a slightly less irrational. Well when I originally saw those scenes I kind of thought Tory was deliberately or subconsciously hitting on Chief so I didn't think Cally was totally irrational anyway, although she did clearly hallucinate some of the encounter from what she remembers in the airlock that didn't actually happen (though I can't remember offhand what that is) which still has me convinced there were some psychotic features to her depression. But yeah, it certainly made things pretty interesting in retrospect when you throw in that sense that once, they really did love each other ( ... )

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asta77 June 3 2009, 03:30:00 UTC
I don't view Lee's returning to the military for one last fight as an inability to let go of being a soldier, just that, at that specific moment in time, he felt the best way to serve the fleet was as a military rather than civilian leader. Given how thin the ranks were following the mutiny, they really needed his help in leading the assault on the Colony.

I think you are right in what Ron would probably say. He likely wants to have it both ways, but it really doesn't work. Personally, I want to view Zak's remarks as being more about HIM than Lee. Though I doubt Lee ever saw it, I think he was the favored son. And it's easier for Zak to accept that if he tells himself it's because they are so much alike whereas the reality is Adama favored Lee not just because he was the good soldier, but also because he had a mind of his own and accomplished everything he did on his own without Adama's help.

I've only really seen him lash out at Adama.

Are you forgetting about or blocking out Kara? ;)

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beccatoria June 3 2009, 07:09:51 UTC
Ha, yes, I was forgetting about Kara a little. Not entirely because I did consider her but concluded - in the seasons 2 - 4 I ran through my mind, that he doesn't really lash out at her so much as pissily shut down and go cold until SHE provokes him which is a little different.

But I did forget the awesome punching scene in 1x12 and yes, that would count. I think I would say though, that Kara definitely counts as part of the wreckage of the Adama family which is Lee's biggest area of non-functioning, since Kara is really Adama's favourite son. And also is all tied up with Lee's feelings for Zak (especially, at least, during season one), which are in turn tied up with his anger towards his father. I kind of think he simultaneously wants Kara as a replacement for his brother (or to love her in place of his brother), and resents her for, well, everything she gets from his father and military life so easily ( ... )

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