the journey vs the destinationbec_87rbDecember 7 2010, 21:49:57 UTC
If he's in heaven, he's no doubt arguing with someone for the pure love of arguing. :) Putting the smack-down on someones pet theory, then proposing his own.
What the hell does that mean?bec_87rbDecember 7 2010, 21:47:28 UTC
Doh! Sorry, I shoulda used the real technical terms, not the little picture in my head, eh? Some part of his Grand Theory involved how many cell divisions out from the initial fertilized ovum the cells remained totipotent.
He had some theory about the cells becoming rapidly lateralized, so that these cells could only become the left half of the baby, and those the right half. Somehow it tied into his overall theory, and I was under the impression that if, early in cell division you had left-side cells and right-side cells, you were a frog. Or some kind of non-mammal.
Now, as opposed to some other time in history? What makes now special, in your view?
Now is special because you're here, of course. ;)
Also, we are on the cusp of expansion into space, if we don't screw up, also of serious environmental damage if we continue to. Mostly though, it looks dire because I am here now and I don't know how the near future comes out. Long term the Sun burns the Earth to ash, but before that we could use some idea men, as they say.
Re: What the hell does that mean?chhinnamastaDecember 7 2010, 22:02:12 UTC
Yeah, sorry, I got it after I posted that outburst of confusion. I suddenly realized you meant from the point of first cellular division. Given mention of schizophrenia, I read "people from the first division" as analogous to "the men in black," or something XD
Long term the Sun burns the Earth to ash, but before that we could use some idea men, as they say
I'm with you. If we all brought our creativity to bear on the collective good, the world could be a beautiful place. The human brain is a wondrous thing. I'm sure our collective intelligence is capable of solving all of our current problems and probably (unintentionally) creating a ton more!
sanguine about the possibilities?bec_87rbDecember 8 2010, 22:30:44 UTC
The question is whose blood gets let? :O
Peter was good at generating new ideas and possible relationships between ideas, and since he had been very smart, he was better than most. He was a bit handicapped because his brain disorder made him less able to winnow out less probable ideas, made his reality testing less effective. Since he liked topics that were abstract to begin with, that were interrelated in intricate and subtle ways, it made reality testing even more of an uphill battle.
If he'd been really far gone, he'd have been no fun at all, because he'd be babbling about the Queen of Heaven and ice-pop beer-tabs in Angola and aglet whoop whoop inglenook blorp. Instead, he was able to sling big heavy chunks of real ideas around long enough to suck even actual physicists into his rolling avalanche of theory for a bit. Good fun!
out of left fieldsuegyptDecember 8 2010, 22:54:55 UTC
big heavy chunks of real ideas
Yeah, that's what I got from your original post, that he was in touch with some fascinating stuff, even if the water ran through his fingers just as he saw his reflection, as it were.
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*shakes head* Huh? What the hell does that mean?
We need really smart people right now, even the creative loonies.
Now, as opposed to some other time in history? What makes now special, in your view?
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He had some theory about the cells becoming rapidly lateralized, so that these cells could only become the left half of the baby, and those the right half. Somehow it tied into his overall theory, and I was under the impression that if, early in cell division you had left-side cells and right-side cells, you were a frog. Or some kind of non-mammal.
Now, as opposed to some other time in history? What makes now special, in your view?
Now is special because you're here, of course. ;)
Also, we are on the cusp of expansion into space, if we don't screw up, also of serious environmental damage if we continue to. Mostly though, it looks dire because I am here now and I don't know how the near future comes out. Long term the Sun burns the Earth to ash, but before that we could use some idea men, as they say.
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Long term the Sun burns the Earth to ash, but before that we could use some idea men, as they say
I'm with you. If we all brought our creativity to bear on the collective good, the world could be a beautiful place. The human brain is a wondrous thing. I'm sure our collective intelligence is capable of solving all of our current problems and probably (unintentionally) creating a ton more!
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PS - *I'm only joshing, in case you don't know me*
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Peter was good at generating new ideas and possible relationships between ideas, and since he had been very smart, he was better than most. He was a bit handicapped because his brain disorder made him less able to winnow out less probable ideas, made his reality testing less effective. Since he liked topics that were abstract to begin with, that were interrelated in intricate and subtle ways, it made reality testing even more of an uphill battle.
If he'd been really far gone, he'd have been no fun at all, because he'd be babbling about the Queen of Heaven and ice-pop beer-tabs in Angola and aglet whoop whoop inglenook blorp. Instead, he was able to sling big heavy chunks of real ideas around long enough to suck even actual physicists into his rolling avalanche of theory for a bit. Good fun!
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Yeah, that's what I got from your original post, that he was in touch with some fascinating stuff, even if the water ran through his fingers just as he saw his reflection, as it were.
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