Tudors: Showtime Clue-by-four

[baron_steffan]

EDIT: I'm leaving this as is, as a reminder to myself about false assumptions. Do read the follow-up comments. Oh, and I still think I'm right about the coronets, the corsets, the wall hangings, and ICOD (an SCA household, held by many to stand for "Inner Circle of Darkness", though they never say).

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Beth

Comments

[baron_steffan]

Whoah. No kidding? Thanks for that.

Be careful. You may be the only history book someone else ever reads.
The best vigil advice I've ever heard. But sometimes I forget.

[baron_steffan]

Oh BTW, yes indeed, if you have that citation. I'd love to see the Letters Patent. I imagine that the point here was that the marquessate of Pembroke was being established expressly for her: she wasn't the wife or widow of the marquess, nor a sole remaining heir upon whom the peerage fell. Still, this is very bizarre. The only other similar case I'm aware of is the queen herself: Elizabeth II (and presumably Victoria and Elizabeth I as well) is duke of Lancaster, but that's a clear anomaly because in fact it is the sovereignty of England itself that is the duke, and that is always masculine regardless of who possesses it.

It caused much comment at the time.

Well, I'm quite embarassed, but at least my puzzlement is period %^).

[harpduchess]

So I'm not the only one who noticed that Wolsey's servants wore ICOD livery? :)

[baron_steffan]

Yeah, what was up with that? I admit (and considering my recent gaffe, I'd better) that I haven't researched it exhaustively yet, but the only badge I find for Wolsey is described as "three Cornish choughs" (sort of a red-legged crow).

His arms were:

Sable, on a Cross engrailed argent, Gules, a lion passant guardant between four leopards´ faces azure, and on a chief of the second a rose of the third between two Cornish choughs proper.

His crest was:

A naked arm embowed, in the hand a shin-bone, all proper.

There's no evidence (that I have yet found) of an eclipsed sun being associated with him in any way. I suspect someone in ICOD was involved with the costume design. Seriously. Can we find out, d'ye think?

[baron_steffan]

That's what I get for copying an incorrect blazon. It should be "...a lion passant gardant gules [coronetted Or] between four leopard's faces azure..." etc.