5.14 My Bloody Valentine: Where Is Your Hunger?

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5.14 My Bloody Valentine: Where Is Your Hunger?

Famine’s hunger kills:
Overdose on what you crave,
Or be dead inside.

Comments

[noirbabalon]

Really enjoyed your view on 5.14. You raised a number of issues that I had concerns about ie Castiel's vessel Jimmy reasserting control, Dean's frozen moment during Sam's exorcising of Famine and the 2nd Horseman's unsatisfying and inconclusive ending, as well as the cupidity of throwing to the wolves the plot thread of destiny vs freewill.

I can't imagine that the creative time truly desire to end that plot thread especially after making such an issue of it at the end of 5.13 but Cupid's statements regarding Mary and John seemed so clumsy and fumbling. I almost want to argue that the lower order of the cupid's misunderstood their directives. Angels at any level of their hierarchy seem to have no understanding or tolerance for Free Will and it's practice by humans.

Your suggestion regarding the Reapers (Death is their leader) was not something that I had considered. It answers some of the questions I had about the lack of them when the demons were collecting souls to feed Famine.

However your comment ...and Jensen’s Dean, too

[chatchien]

And if Famine feeds on souls, what does Death do to them, with the army of Reapers who gather where he appears?

Didn't Tessa tell Dean in Death Takes a Holiday that she just gathered souls? That she didn't know what happened to them after the gathering. What happened to the Twinkie Man's soul when Sam and Dean freed it?

The exact parameters of Sam’s powers and demon blood addiction have never been defined.

Even with his demon blood, Sam could use the Banishing Angel Sigil. Although, didn't Sam's blood sparkle or glow when he banished Anna from the garage in The Song Remains the Same? Demons can't banish Angels on their own, can they?

I think Dean was the very first of our heroes infected by Famine precisely because he’s the most broken, the most desperately hungry in his soul.That is a different and interesting take on it

Odd idea

[anonymous]

I don't think this will happen - but the brothers now have two rings. If the collected all four? They would control the Apocolype. SO the question is - what 4 persons would wear the rings?
Dean =Famine ( Remembering that true starvation actually ends hunger)
Sam = War (Superconflicted character.)
Castiel = Death (He has technically 'died' - unique for an angel)
Gabriel = Pestilance (He's a pest - at least )
What would that do to the endgame?

[anonymous]

I questioned that statement about angels walking the earth too. Cherubs are angels but if you have read a few theological texts on angels, and maybe throw in a little Sunday school catechism, there are all these different classes and levels of angels, from those closest to God in proximity like the ones with extra faces and wings(Thrones I think), and cherubs are on the low end of the spectrum, a world away from the Archangels like Gabriel and Michael. I'm not sure but I believe there is a class of angels above them as well. I'd like to know what research was used by the writers

[chiiyo86]

This was the grossest episode ever - I could barely watch this first scene. But all the brotherly stuff was lovely (and they did that adorable talking-in-unison again!). :) And I'm so proud of Sam for how hard he resisted!

and then felt punched in the gut by the realization that Death commands Reapers and would have ordered them out of Famine’s way.

Ooooh, very interesting idea. I didn't think about that at all, but it makes a lot of sense.

I agree with your theory about Dean's hunger - there was a lot of insistence on his complete lack of hunger for anything, and we know that at least in last episode he still had erotic dreams. But he's already stated that he wished he didn't feel anything - so that's what happened