5.05 Fallen Idols: We Got Bigger Problems, Don’t You Think

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5.05 Fallen Idols: We Got Bigger Problems, Don’t You Think

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[karenmiller]

Well, I'm trying very hard to find the positive, as you did, but I'm failing abysmally. I doubt I'll ever watch this one again.

[bardicvoice]

It was hard to write this. I gave credit for what I thought they were trying to do, but this is right down there with Bugs, Red Sky at Morning, and angels and grace falling from the sky with meteor trails in Heaven and Hell ... only worse. Single worst line? Sam telling Dean he went with Ruby to get away from Dean. Arrrgh.

Less said, the better.

On the other hand, I have real hopes for this week. And I got to see some of the shooting on it, so - yay!!

[karenmiller]

Puff, puff, pant ...

I actually rank it with Yellow Fever and After School. I have very little good to say about those eps. Makes me sad. And yes, Red Sky. Shudder. Actually, Bugs not so bad. It had some nice moments that redeemed it for me, despite the truly poor narrative construction. And there was so much I loved in H&H I'm prepared to do a handwave. But this? This? For me it had zero redeeming features. That Sam line to Dean? I remain speechless with rage. And I'm going to stop there before I break my own word. *g*

I am ... nervous about this week. And I'll leave it at that.

[seesmooshrun]

Nice photo of you in your album!! And nice job finding good things to say about a so-so episode. It wasn't awful, but it wasn't good, either. I was initially happy with the "SOON" montage since coming attractions are fun to piece together; when I was told by someone else that the reason for it was because the episode was so short I was, um, peeved. My thought then and now was "why not shorten the uncharacteristically lengthy preview, and give us a minute or two of something good?" Like Dean confessing to breaking the first seal. Or a valid reason for Sam to dig around in the stomachs of dead bodies for unknown seeds. Or a few more moments of heart-to-heart. Or a little more clue about what the phone conversation was really about. But... Dean and Sam are back on the road together with what looks like a fresh understanding of each others' needs, Sam is being painfully honest, Dean is trying to reach a new level of maturity; and in the end that's kind of what counts. It was not a horrible episode, just the least satisfying one

[bardicvoice]

What I wouldn't give to be able to have seen Dean telling Sam about breaking the first seal ... What a wasted opportunity. Still:

But... Dean and Sam are back on the road together with what looks like a fresh understanding of each others' needs, Sam is being painfully honest, Dean is trying to reach a new level of maturity; and in the end that's kind of what counts.

Oh, yes!

Glad you enjoyed the photos! I loved getting that close to the Impala. I just wish I'd been able to get a few shots of the boys when they had the garage door open. Alas, having that film truck in front of me made that kind of hard ... I did better with the shooting on this week's episode, though!

[seesmooshrun]

Oh, you tease! I presume we will be seeing those photos sometime after Thursday?

I really should have missed my plane and stalked/followed you and your friend... hee.

Oh, yeah, and...."Wasted opportunity." Understatement.

[bardicvoice]

You will DEFINITELY be seeing those photos after Thursday! I will get things up as quickly as I can, but I can't promise a date certain; there's this irritating thing called real life that keeps getting in the way ... *wry grin*

[sethra2000]

Whew... I have just caught up on all your awesome review/meta posts. I had to start at the beginning and not stop till I'd finished (barring RL breaks of course... *shakes fist at RL*)

WOW. is about all the coherent I have, you do such an wonderful job of articulating why I LOVE THIS SHOW. In fact there is a section in this that I feel I have to show my friends and family, the section about projecting ones fears and emotions onto other people, because that is so very relevant to my current situation and you have explained it so very well.

I look forward to revisiting the next episode with you.

Hugs

[bardicvoice]

Thank you, Sethra, and welcome!! (Hmm ... Stephen Brust fan, by any chance?) I'm very happy you enjoyed what you found here (and wow - you read ALL of this? Jeez, I'm impressed!!!). I hope I continue to please.

And I'm very glad to hug you right back!

[sethra2000]

Heh, yep. I loved his books and Sethra lavode was one of my fav characters. The older not the younger, who was a bit of a bitch really.

I'm friending you so I don't miss out on any of these.

[bardicvoice]

Friend, and welcome!

I love Brust's books. His personal life had a tendency to come out in them (very easy to chart his marital woes in Vlad's), but boy, do I ever understand that; I use my own fiction writing (and my meta essays, for that matter!) to deal with the curve balls that life throws.

I definitely appreciate Sethra the elder. Nice choice! And I'll friend you back, if you don't mind!

[zazreil]

Wow as always great analysis. I was a little more positive about the epi than you were, but I don't know how much of that was my reaction to the fantabulous trailer. Its sort of like my reaction to Yellow Fever, Jensen lip sinking made the epi then so the trailer made the epi for me this time

[bardicvoice]

Thanks, Zaz!

I still kept longing for that one apology to Dean for doubting his love, and his commitment to Sam's welfare. I'm with you on this one. Sam has apologized and apologized, but I think he's missed apologizing for the one specific thing that hurt more than all the others combined. And Dean is never going to mention that, because - hello! - big brother and guy. Sigh. I think Sam will get there eventually, though.

Given the nature of the Leshi story, the comment on fannishness didn't bother me at all. I did laugh at the "spray tans and little dogs" line, especially after having seen what I suspect was Icarus with Sadie, Harley, and Buddy (Clif's cattle dog) on one of the 5.06 locations. Tee-hee!

Sam's apologies

[manzanita_crow]

I agree that Sam needed to apologise for his more personal crimes against Dean, but to be fair Dean wouldn't let Sam discuss the situation. Twice Sam tried to talk to Dean in the first episode and Dean shut him down. Sam had to wait for Bobby to show up before he could even apologise for anything at all.

Sam's not a mind reader or even a woman :), so Dean needed to let Sam talk it through. Maybe he was about to apologise for doubting Dean's love, or maybe a discussion would have allowed Sam to see that he needed to do that.

Anyway, I know this is ancient history now. It just bugs me that some fans say Sam hasn't apologised for to Dean for this or that to this day, when he's frequently been shut down by Dean when he tries. Pet gripe, sorry :D

[alienat]

Thanks for another amazing insight into the brother's relationship. I was nodding the whole time while reading.

[bardicvoice]

Thanks! Glad it resonated with you!