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bardicvoice

4.19 Jump The Shark: Take It Any Way You Want

Apr 28, 2009 23:30

4.19 Jump The Shark: Take It Any Way You Want

John had one more son,
Hidden, normal, loved and safe;
Murdered for revenge.

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jared padalecki, phil sgriccia, episode commentaries, supernatural university, kim manners, john winchester, jay gruska, jensen ackles, dean winchester, sam winchester, meta, supernatural

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nerthus April 29 2009, 04:28:30 UTC

I think this is by far the BEST meta review and analysis of 4.19 that I've read; bravo!! Not just because I AGREE with all your points, ha, but because you've presented them in such a clear, concise, and enlightening manner that really peels back and exposes the complex layers of the boys' relationship both to each other and to their departed father. It is rather sad that they never even got to meet the actual Adam; and given where both Sam and Dean are emotionally right now, if they HAD been allowed to know their real brother, I wonder what sort of future relationship the three of them might have had and whether Adam would have become a part of the whole Apocalypse fiasco? We'll never know, but for me the whole episode was just so poignant and its repercussions for the boys' already-shaken emotional states just lingered with me for days. Gee, you'd think those Winchesters were REAL PEOPLE and not just fictional tv characters considering how deeply their story has impacted my heart and imagination, sigh.

bardicvoice April 30 2009, 00:13:35 UTC

Thank you very much!

The whole reason that I write these reviews, meta, and stories is that these characters truly do feel real to me. Sam and Dean exist; that's a tribute to the writers who voice them and to Jared and Jensen who breathe vivid life into them. I never fail to be impressed at how this cast and crew, including the writers, create such a rich emotional context. Wow.

karenmiller April 29 2009, 05:13:01 UTC

Bravo, yet again.

What's interesting about this ep, I think, is how Adam is almost irrelevant. He's dead. But it's his impact on the boys that is the core of the story. I can't believe how far they've complicated what started out as quite a simplistic story, back in the pilot.

And now I'm buckling in for the final 3. I think we're all going to be wrecked by the end of t his season.

bardicvoice April 30 2009, 00:17:17 UTC

Thanks, Karen!

Amazing how powerful a dead kid can be, hey? What they did with Adam was amazing, especially considering that we never actually met him. The psychological wealth of this show leaves me breathless.

And I'm with you; I think I'm going to be on the floor by the time this season ends, shrieking for summer to hurry up and end so that I can learn what comes next. I fear we're in for the darkest time yet ... but they do say that the hour is darkest before the dawn. I'll hope for that.

karenmiller May 3 2009, 10:03:08 UTC

Hee. I confess I'm a glutton for punishment. The darker and the more difficult they go, the more I like it. I'm not even against bittersweet endings -- lord knows I write them often enough! *g*

I feel like they're finally getting to the meat and blood and bone of this story and the characters. Without the depths, you don't get the heights.

cassopeia April 29 2009, 05:15:31 UTC

awesome review, it's worth waiting for so don't worry yourself if it's a little bit late! It's definitely definitely worth it!!
Again, thanks for pointing out the strangeness of the ripped out pages, I could have watched the episodes a million times and would've never noticed it! THANKS!!
You say you can't forgive John for lying to Dean?
I think it's because of Sam and John's similarities. Even his revenge driven self loved his sons and I magine John feared what Dean might think of him when he learned about Adam's existance and the different upringing he had. As we see with Sam, one lie leads to the next but with every new lie to cover up the other ones, it gets more difficult to tell people the truth. So, I would say John kept Adam a secret especially from Dean cause he feared his son's judgement and at some point didn't know how to tell the truth anymore.

bardicvoice April 30 2009, 00:28:13 UTC

Thank you!

I think your point on John becoming trapped in his lies, not wanting either to hurt Dean unnecessarily or to lose his loving regard, is very well taken. Lies build on themselves and enmesh the tellers, but what is always forgotten is that in the end, the truth will out. Sooner or later, every lie falls apart. John's lies survived him, but they've shredded now. The good thing is that Dean is better able now to deal with the discovery than he was before; the bad thing is that Sam has fallen into the same trap as John, and the lies between the brothers are about to explode.

As for not being able to forgive John; I think I will, eventually. And I'll do it because, at some point, Dean will.

adelheide April 29 2009, 05:17:53 UTC

Wow! Nicely done! Well said!

I'm afraid I can't really add much to that, but brava!

bardicvoice April 30 2009, 00:28:53 UTC

Thank you very much! (That's more than enough you added, right there!)

lady_bee_i April 29 2009, 06:36:30 UTC

Thank you so much for posting the meta despite your illness. I hope you are feeling better now... All my best sweetheart ( ... )

bardicvoice April 30 2009, 00:51:07 UTC

Thank you, my dear! I think that the weekend heat just got to me, since I was out digging holes to plant trees and bushes in heavy clay shot through with roots in 90 degree temps ... shades of the boys digging graves, except that they mostly do it at night ( ... )