I'm trying to figure out how old these people are. The child is only three, and the wife is in nursing school, so they could be as young as their early twenties. Well, time to grow up now, dammit.
I would suggest that you tell them the next time they are that loud at midnight, you are planning to call the cops. That might prevent you from actually having to call the cops.
Well, they do quiet down once I ask them to. BUT I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO ASK.
I honestly thought it might be a domestic disturbance this time. There was shouting and slamming, and the utterance of "fuck" loud enough for me to discern it clearly through the floor.
But then it seemed to settle down to sort of "ordinary" shouting, if that makes any sense, so I went down in person.
You're absolutely right - they should not be that noisy. I completely agree with you there. I've had loud neighbors who didn't seem to understand basic concepts like "work/sleep schedules" or "common courtesy", & ohhhhhhh, they drove me insane.
What I'm saying is that your neighbors may not understand just how annoyed you are. So perhaps some time when they aren't being noisy (so you aren't vastly irritated), you can go downstairs & tell them that the next time they are being that noisy at night, you plan to call the cops. That gives them fair warning of where you're planning to take things.
It gives them one more chance to pipe down before you involve the cops. Just remember, involving the cops takes the whole situation to a new level of neighborhood animosity. If you can avoid it, it's better.
I would definitely rather avoid it. Most particularly because they aren't noisy all the time, they aren't throwing big parties, it isn't loud arguing...It just isn't cop-worthy.
It's just... how stupid do you have to be, not to realize that slamming doors and shouting at midnight will wake up your neighbor, who has pointed this out to you before?
There are many people in the world for whom midnight is not an unreasonable hour to be louder than usual. This is because for them, it is pretty much still the middle of the day, or at least early evening. It would suck to be in a position where you had to be quiet during your wide awake time, especially since respecting someone else's schedule is something that should go both ways
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Our lease has very clearly spelled out rules regarding noise. (The place is...a bit fascist in some ways, but I knew that when I signed the lease.)
These are not midnight people. The wife is up at 6:30 every morning (yep, I can hear that, too), and leaves at 7:30 (slamming the door as she goes). The father is home with the child most of the day, and they are awake.
He had to wake up his three year old at midnight. I'm not going to critique someone else's parenting too hard, but there's a level of WTF to that action that is inexcusable.
Our lease has very clearly spelled out rules regarding noise.
Hmm. Would it be better to remind the idjits of this ("I've been down here at midnight three times now. Next time, I will also call management and tell them you're breaking the noise rules in the lease") before proceeding to call the cops?
Agreed, though, it's a bloody inconsiderate thing to do to you as the neighbor. Blaming the three-year-old on top of it is just tacky.
I would write a letter to the management office, send it certified/return receipt, and if you think it would help and not whip anyone into a violent frenzy, cc the neighbors on it. In this letter, I would quote the lease, and say that this has been a problem requiring verbal consultations from you on the following dates and times, and mention that these aren't the only times you've been disturbed by noise. This is UNACCEPTABLE, regardless of which family member is generating the noise and how old they may be. Do you remember the shit I once got into when my alarm clock dropped on the wood floor of my Brooklyn apartment one single night by accident? I got the lecture of a lifetime from the Super!
I had neighbors like that once. I could hear everything. The kids took their showers at midnight, every night, and there was a lot yelling and swearing to get them into the shower and bed. I assume, based on the following confrontation, that she thought we could no hear it.
The stupid mother of these kids let one play LOUD video games on a night when I I had an exam the next day: I was working AND going to college and raising three kids. At 1:30 in the morning I went over there and the ten-year-old answered the door. This was NOT a nice neighborhood - would you let a child answer the door in the wee hours? I asked him to please turn the sound down
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I suspect that is--or was--part of the problem, that my neighbors didn't realize how easily sound travels upstairs. My previous neighbor was so quiet that I didn't realize it.
Of course, now that they do realize, they still forget themselves at annoying times.
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I honestly thought it might be a domestic disturbance this time. There was shouting and slamming, and the utterance of "fuck" loud enough for me to discern it clearly through the floor.
But then it seemed to settle down to sort of "ordinary" shouting, if that makes any sense, so I went down in person.
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What I'm saying is that your neighbors may not understand just how annoyed you are. So perhaps some time when they aren't being noisy (so you aren't vastly irritated), you can go downstairs & tell them that the next time they are being that noisy at night, you plan to call the cops. That gives them fair warning of where you're planning to take things.
It gives them one more chance to pipe down before you involve the cops. Just remember, involving the cops takes the whole situation to a new level of neighborhood animosity. If you can avoid it, it's better.
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It's just... how stupid do you have to be, not to realize that slamming doors and shouting at midnight will wake up your neighbor, who has pointed this out to you before?
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These are not midnight people. The wife is up at 6:30 every morning (yep, I can hear that, too), and leaves at 7:30 (slamming the door as she goes). The father is home with the child most of the day, and they are awake.
He had to wake up his three year old at midnight. I'm not going to critique someone else's parenting too hard, but there's a level of WTF to that action that is inexcusable.
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Hmm. Would it be better to remind the idjits of this ("I've been down here at midnight three times now. Next time, I will also call management and tell them you're breaking the noise rules in the lease") before proceeding to call the cops?
Agreed, though, it's a bloody inconsiderate thing to do to you as the neighbor. Blaming the three-year-old on top of it is just tacky.
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In this letter, I would quote the lease, and say that this has been a problem requiring verbal consultations from you on the following dates and times, and mention that these aren't the only times you've been disturbed by noise.
This is UNACCEPTABLE, regardless of which family member is generating the noise and how old they may be. Do you remember the shit I once got into when my alarm clock dropped on the wood floor of my Brooklyn apartment one single night by accident? I got the lecture of a lifetime from the Super!
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The stupid mother of these kids let one play LOUD video games on a night when I I had an exam the next day: I was working AND going to college and raising three kids. At 1:30 in the morning I went over there and the ten-year-old answered the door. This was NOT a nice neighborhood - would you let a child answer the door in the wee hours? I asked him to please turn the sound down ( ... )
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Of course, now that they do realize, they still forget themselves at annoying times.
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