People in LJ tend to cluster into the same sorts of social groups that people face-to-face do, with the same kind of evolved social standards. ( Be careful about talking smack. )
(here via synecdochic) - what I wouldn't give for a button that caused a small robotic arm to reach through the screen of my target, and attach a large notice to their screen, upon which would be printed the first two sentences of this post.
I'm here via synecdochic (I've probably horribly misplet that, I'm pre-coffee atm I was so darned pre-coffee I forgot I could have just opened another tab and checked the spelling. I am very sorry.), and I must say that I agree with the vast majority of what you say here.
The only trouble is that the people who read this are most likely the people who already understand this. The true offenders are either oblivious to the fact this entry exists, or don't care. Which is more the shame, because if we all played by a loose set of rules even, the LJ-sphere could be a much nicer place in which to play. Especially one or two of the fannish comms. ;)
This is sadly true. And this doesn't even get into trolling.
(I think it has its place, but it should be carried out in a safe, sane, and consensual way, and not taken too far. The LJ -> MySpace April Fool's joke was a perfect example of a trollish joke taken just far enough -- far enough to mildly wind up the easily wound-up, but not far enough to provoke any but the really, really, really easily provoked, and pointed out as a joke to anyone who looked like they were taking it too seriously.)
Another thing, with the ability to edit comments, I find it polite to say WHY the comment's been edited. Spelling and grammar are innocuous, but edited because I was being an arse and regret it is something else entirely.
I think the only thing missing is the RL friending issue. IE, sometimes, those people are on the FL because they are the next door nighbor, cousin, sister, whatever.
And you can't remove them from the list, as it would create RL drama.
I'm not really sure what to suggest about it, but ti does result in some friend of kind of issues.
That can cause its own trouble, if they ask "So, did you see my post about my new baby/job/boyfriend/murder conviction?" and you have no idea what they're talking about.
I have found the easiest way to avoid some of the drama of unfriending someone is to just take them off my default view. I have done that with a handful of people. Thank goodness most of them removed me first and I could breathe a sigh of relief. As they were all friends IRL, it could have gotten messy.
The thread hijacking thing made me laugh. In NFP, if there are not at least three threads in a mod post that have dissolved into people showing off fandom icons, discussing Monty Python and quoting the lyrics of an obscure song at each other, we don't feel it was a successful post. Then there was the one where I insisted that everyone reply in Haiku...
*nod* metaquotes digresses happily all the time. But if some outsider came in and asked a really damn dumb question, their thread would turn into fail macroes in no time flat.
But point taken. Community culture determines what level of off-topic is acceptable, and where.
I have macros ready and waiting. But I am a Mod and Founder and its part of that community culture thing you were talking about. They expect better behavior from me.
So I just threaten people with FAILboats and lurk in Metaquotes. Sadly, there is not as much flat out stupid as I seem to attract some days. Just one I would rather be a member of NFP so I can use my collection of macros.
This is turning into a very interesting conversation from a social point of view.
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In conclusion: Amen!
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LJ does need to offer fish over IP services for reals.
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The only trouble is that the people who read this are most likely the people who already understand this. The true offenders are either oblivious to the fact this entry exists, or don't care. Which is more the shame, because if we all played by a loose set of rules even, the LJ-sphere could be a much nicer place in which to play. Especially one or two of the fannish comms. ;)
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(I think it has its place, but it should be carried out in a safe, sane, and consensual way, and not taken too far. The LJ -> MySpace April Fool's joke was a perfect example of a trollish joke taken just far enough -- far enough to mildly wind up the easily wound-up, but not far enough to provoke any but the really, really, really easily provoked, and pointed out as a joke to anyone who looked like they were taking it too seriously.)
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And you can't remove them from the list, as it would create RL drama.
I'm not really sure what to suggest about it, but ti does result in some friend of kind of issues.
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The thread hijacking thing made me laugh. In NFP, if there are not at least three threads in a mod post that have dissolved into people showing off fandom icons, discussing Monty Python and quoting the lyrics of an obscure song at each other, we don't feel it was a successful post. Then there was the one where I insisted that everyone reply in Haiku...
These are great. Thanks for writing them down.
And I found you through Wibbble.
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But point taken. Community culture determines what level of off-topic is acceptable, and where.
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So I just threaten people with FAILboats and lurk in Metaquotes. Sadly, there is not as much flat out stupid as I seem to attract some days. Just one I would rather be a member of NFP so I can use my collection of macros.
This is turning into a very interesting conversation from a social point of view.
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