True (facepalms). In my defense I was thinking more in terms of the 'verse time than show's. Claire's been talking with him for maybe a month but for years before then everyone believed he was mute including possibly the people he was with when Thompson found him. It made me wonder what it was about Angela Petrelli that made him break silence for her.
their marriage recalls the way things seemed to work in my parents’ generation breadwinner and homemaker clearly defined and never discussed. If you think about it the show is being quite startlingly harsh in its depiction of that traditional family structure.
With the Petrellis as well, yes. Marriage doesn't do well in this verse.
Hiro and Ando had definitely been played as comedy relief to this point, but I didn't fault the show for that because their thread was the only one that had *any comedy at all*. Every other thread in the show was pure, straight-faced drama/horror/suspense.
It's quite different from Buffy, which could switch from comedy to drama in an eye blink. You're right they do need a Hiro for the lightheartedness if not the belly laughs. It will be sad time for the show if he turns into Future!Hiro a day too soon.
Their scenes together are among my favourites of the first season. I just adore them. (Which, naturally, resulted in fanfic.) Also, note this time Nathan is seeking out Hiro when he spots him; in a season where usually people bond over life-threatening situations when they meet (a la Peter and Claire, for example), Hiro and Nathan hit it off simply because they like each other, against all the odds, since they're at the opposite ends of the superpowered characters, Hiro the exuberant fanboy and Nathan the jaded, skeptic politician.
I’m most curious about the Haitian and how he became aligned with her, is she the only person he’s spoken with until now?
As Londonkds says, he spoke a good deal to Claire. But she's clearly whom he's referring to when he says to Bennet that he took his orders "from someone who outranks you" (Bennet: "In this Company?" Haitian: "In your daughter's life") in Company ManDid it surprise you Nathan was working with the FBI and had in fact initialized this post-"
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Forgot - as to when Mohinder clued in that "Zane" was Sylar - I always thought it was when Sylar cringed at noise, i.e. displayed Dale's powers, the morning after he killed her. That was a big giveaway.
Nathan looks genuinely happy when he's talking to Hiro, it's good to see. I recently had the thought that if Kimiko had been been a boy Hiro would have been the Peter of his family, I wonder if Nathan might, at least in part, be responding to that younger brotherness (but without the responsibilities and the adolescent disputes to complicate it).
Did it surprise you Nathan was working with the FBI and had in fact initialized this post-"accident" in Six Months Ago?It surprised me but it didn't jar like the thing with the gun. In a way I can see that it's a natural progression from trying to take out Linderman via pure lawyer-fu, to undercover entrapment, to assassination but guns and politicians don't feel right together. Maybe that's a European/American difference
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I recently had the thought that if Kimiko had been been a boy Hiro would have been the Peter of his family, I wonder if Nathan might, at least in part, be responding to that younger brotherness (but without the responsibilities and the adolescent disputes to complicate it).
Oh, absolutely. I think, among other things, Hiro is a younger brother without the intense co-dependency he has with Peter and the many many issues to him. Fun trivia: in their podcast commentary for Landslide, George Takei teases Masi Oka that Hiro pronounces Nathan's name like the Japanese word for "big sister". *g*
In a way I can see that it's a natural progression from trying to take out Linderman via pure lawyer-fu, to undercover entrapment, to assassination but guns and politicians don't feel right together. Maybe that's a European/American difference.Could be, says a fellow European. I remember when I watched the episode for the first time I didn't think he'd go through with shooting Linderman, either, when he was on his way, not because Nathan is
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With the Petrellis as well, yes. Marriage doesn't do well in this verse.
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Their scenes together are among my favourites of the first season. I just adore them. (Which, naturally, resulted in fanfic.) Also, note this time Nathan is seeking out Hiro when he spots him; in a season where usually people bond over life-threatening situations when they meet (a la Peter and Claire, for example), Hiro and Nathan hit it off simply because they like each other, against all the odds, since they're at the opposite ends of the superpowered characters, Hiro the exuberant fanboy and Nathan the jaded, skeptic politician.
I’m most curious about the Haitian and how he became aligned with her, is she the only person he’s spoken with until now?
As Londonkds says, he spoke a good deal to Claire. But she's clearly whom he's referring to when he says to Bennet that he took his orders "from someone who outranks you" (Bennet: "In this Company?" Haitian: "In your daughter's life") in Company ManDid it surprise you Nathan was working with the FBI and had in fact initialized this post-" ( ... )
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Did it surprise you Nathan was working with the FBI and had in fact initialized this post-"accident" in Six Months Ago?It surprised me but it didn't jar like the thing with the gun. In a way I can see that it's a natural progression from trying to take out Linderman via pure lawyer-fu, to undercover entrapment, to assassination but guns and politicians don't feel right together. Maybe that's a European/American difference ( ... )
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Oh, absolutely. I think, among other things, Hiro is a younger brother without the intense co-dependency he has with Peter and the many many issues to him. Fun trivia: in their podcast commentary for Landslide, George Takei teases Masi Oka that Hiro pronounces Nathan's name like the Japanese word for "big sister". *g*
In a way I can see that it's a natural progression from trying to take out Linderman via pure lawyer-fu, to undercover entrapment, to assassination but guns and politicians don't feel right together. Maybe that's a European/American difference.Could be, says a fellow European. I remember when I watched the episode for the first time I didn't think he'd go through with shooting Linderman, either, when he was on his way, not because Nathan is ( ... )
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