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augustine August 27 2006, 13:29:00 UTC
I've quoted it a million times, but....

"The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried" -GKC (What is Wrong With the World)

I know that well enough from my own personal failures....

If you believe you were created by God, wouldn't a logical extension of that be that God created your ability to think and reason, and thus you should utilise your brain as a glory to him and to know him better

True.

"And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength. This is the first commandment." (Mark 12:30 NKJV)

Anyway, my suggestion: pray for them (and me, for that matter, if you don't mind).

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axver August 28 2006, 00:32:57 UTC
'I've quoted it a million times, but....'

I love that quote. In fact, I use it as my signature on one of the online forums I frequent.

'Anyway, my suggestion: pray for them'

Easier said than genuinely done!

'(and me, for that matter, if you don't mind)'

But in your case, not a problem at all! Will do. :)

(I was actually wondering where you'd got to. I made a couple of entries lately and I was going to e-mail you to ask your thoughts.)

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augustine August 28 2006, 22:26:31 UTC
Thanks for your prayers.

I apologize for not responding to your other posts....At the time, I didn't have anything valuable to offer on the topic, so I remained silent. I was thinking of perhaps responding to them later, but over the weekend I became sick (and I still am), so I have not got around to it.

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tinandcopper August 27 2006, 17:18:06 UTC
Nah. God gave humans minds so that we wouldn't use them. We must be guided by the Holy Spirit!

What nightmarish things.

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axver August 28 2006, 00:34:45 UTC
You know you want to get your fideism on.

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lovebri August 27 2006, 23:18:04 UTC
I remember in world history a girl raised her hand and said, "I can't learn about this [Hinduism]." People nodded. I was in shock.

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axver August 28 2006, 00:36:39 UTC
... whaaat?

I would dearly love to know what justification they have for such wilfull ignorance! I mean, am I missing the Biblical passage that says "thou shalt stick thy head in the sand and thou shalt learn naught"?

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lovebri August 28 2006, 21:33:40 UTC
Yeah, I think it's in chapter "Utterly-Bogus." Apparently we can't read well.

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augustine August 28 2006, 22:45:09 UTC
True. However, that by itself isn't nearly as annoying as people who are in ignorance (wilfull or not), yet still proceed to lecture others what another belief system believes....To use a SOTC (Someone other than Chesterton) quote:

"Ignorance is excusable when it is borne like a cross, but when it is wielded like an axe, and with moral indignation, then it becomes something else indeed." Flannery O'Connor

(Of course, that applies both ways: there are also plenty of nonreligious people or those who object to organized relgion who are just as guilty of the exact same thing; in either case, it is wrong).

BTW, while I'm at it, I'll just provide another Flannery O'Connor quote that seems relevant to your post:

"I think that the Church is the only thing that is going to make the terrible world we are coming to endurable; the only thing that makes the Church endurable is that it is somehow the body of Christ and that on this we are fed. It seems to be a fact that you suffer as much from the Church as for it but if you believe in the ( ... )

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fugebabe8819 August 28 2006, 00:48:49 UTC
What's funny is, I still have an account there, back when you could put that you weren't a Christian in your profile or whatever. Apparently they changed that in the eons it's been since I've been there (or I'm just an idiot and can't figure out how.) because on CF, I'm still stuck as a Southern Baptist. Yay.

The whole point of this comment was, you made me curious about that thread. So now I shall venture into Idiotana and try not to get infected. Just a peek at this forum is making me want to cry for humanity. Could you direct me to where that particular thread was?

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axver August 28 2006, 00:55:14 UTC
Southern Baptist? Yikes.

I don't know if I really should direct you to the thread (aren't friends supposed to stop friends from frying their brain?), but here you go: http://www.christianforums.com/t3241935-is-it-wrong.html

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sg15z August 28 2006, 21:29:30 UTC
Hey we southern baptists are ok. Ok maybe not all of us, but there are a select few who aren't as crazy as the rest of the lot.

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augustine August 28 2006, 22:50:23 UTC
I agree. When I was still a Protestant, I attended a Southern Baptist Church for a while, and it was a great chuch (though obviously today I would disagree with it on some doctrinal manners).

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purplicious August 28 2006, 18:15:51 UTC
Remind me when I get home to read this - my lunch hour ended 15 minues ago, hee.

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