No, you weren't the only person getting "The Curse of the Fatal Death" from Spyfall 2! What's more it occurred to me that while The Master was taking the slow path through the 20th century (most irritating 77 years ever) he'd be live through all his previous incarnations' bungled plots on Earth. *ouch!* No wonder he was so put out.
Also... I was wondering if his Tardis was now stuck in the form of O's house?
I'm still vaguely irritated that they've apparently decided to ignore all of Missy's character, though I *do* hope we see more of this Master as the Doctor unravels the mystery they've set up for her this season.
Lastly, am I the only person glad that the Master has admitted that his orgies of destruction are mainly to get the Doctor's attention?
he'd be live through all his previous incarnations' bungled plots on Earth. *ouch!* No wonder he was so put out.
Ha! I hadn't thought of that, but, yes, that must have been galling.
Oh, man. Now I want fic of his POV on that. I might want to read that very badly.
Also... I was wondering if his Tardis was now stuck in the form of O's house?
I don't think it's stuck. The Doctor said he just arrogantly hadn't even bothered to change it. Although I suppose it's theoretically supposed to do that automatically, isn't it? Maybe he just has the chameleon circuit turned off.
I'm still vaguely irritated that they've apparently decided to ignore all of Missy's character,
I'm still hoping that sometime, somewhere, we'll get at least a nod in the direction of that. Maybe whatever it is he found out about Gallifrey pushed him back towards the evil end of things? (Although I'm actually finding hard to imagine what he might have discovered that he'd actually care about. Still keeping my fingers crossed that it turns out to be worth it
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Oh, no. No, you are not! I was sort of like, well, finally someone's admitted out loud what we all have been thinking for decades! Although "How else would I get your attention?" is still a hilarious thing for him to say. I dunno, dude, a phone call would have done it, really. :)
Or a text... after all, they'd been texting each other for years! "Let's meet for lunch" probably would have done it. *g*
That was huge fun! I hadn't realised that Chris Chibnall was capable of writing something that good.
"I am intrigued by whatever deep-mythology thing is going on with the Time Lords."
Me too. I think that is going to be the overarching story for this season. They would hardly have devoted 5 or 10 minutes to it at the end of the episode otherwise. Also I'm sure that before long the Master is going to find a way of escaping from his current predicament and will turn up again before the season is over.
I hadn't realised that Chris Chibnall was capable of writing something that good.
Yeah, I was sort of thinking that, myself. The more I reflect on it, the more I think it does feature several of the things I usually find flawed about his work, but I was so busy enjoying myself I didn't mind them. Which is good enough for me, I think.
Agreed that it's probably going to be the arc for the season, although I suspect we may have a few more episodes before it's picked up on in a major way again.
Also agree that we almost certainly haven't seen the last of the Master this season. At least, I certainly hope not!
Yeah, Delgado's Master hypnotized people a lot, and while they never actually said he was using telepathy to do it, it's always been pretty clear to me he was using telepathy to do it. That may be something slightly different, though. They just really never do quite nail down what Time Lords are or aren't capable of.
And, yeah, that was an interesting, and genuinely kind of creepy conceit, even if I'm not 100% sure how much sense all of it made.
It did seem to finish very quickly and rather frenetically. What happened to Barton? I'd like to have seen him end up in the weird tree place. Or worse.
I'm puzzled that the Doctor refers to Ada as a descendent of Byron - technically true for a daughter, I suppose, but odd.
Did O say when she should go to Gallifrey? There's, well, a lot of time to choose from.
Has this timeless child been mentioned before, oh walking encyclopedia of Doctorness?
Did she say "descendant?" I think I might have missed that, or at least just failed to notice it. Well, it is, as you say, technically true!
I've seen a lot of theories around that suggest that you can't travel into Gallifrey's past, somehow, relative to your own timestream. I'm not entirely sure how that would work, but it would explain a lot.
The timeless child thing was mentioned once last season, when some random aliens were saying cryptic things about the Doctor's past, no doubt as setup for whatever they're doing with it this season. It was never mentioned before that, though.
Ah, I vaguely remember that now, thanks! This arc could be interesting if they don't drag it out over seasons.
You mean relative to where a timelord is in time (which is after all easily changed) or that they can never go back earlier than their most recent visit? But wasn't there an episode with child Doctor in a barn wanting a story read to him? And I gather there've been young Doctor and Master as friends, though I don't know if that was a visit or a flashback, or maybe just referred to.
Yeah, they did, somehow, briefly go back to the Doctor's childhood in "Listen." Which might completely ruin that theory. Unless it was some kind of weird exception.
And I gather there've been young Doctor and Master as friends, though I don't know if that was a visit or a flashback, or maybe just referred to.
It's been mentioned repeatedly, but never shown. The closest we've got was one very brief flashback of the Master as an eight-year-old kid.
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Also... I was wondering if his Tardis was now stuck in the form of O's house?
I'm still vaguely irritated that they've apparently decided to ignore all of Missy's character, though I *do* hope we see more of this Master as the Doctor unravels the mystery they've set up for her this season.
Lastly, am I the only person glad that the Master has admitted that his orgies of destruction are mainly to get the Doctor's attention?
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Ha! I hadn't thought of that, but, yes, that must have been galling.
Oh, man. Now I want fic of his POV on that. I might want to read that very badly.
Also... I was wondering if his Tardis was now stuck in the form of O's house?
I don't think it's stuck. The Doctor said he just arrogantly hadn't even bothered to change it. Although I suppose it's theoretically supposed to do that automatically, isn't it? Maybe he just has the chameleon circuit turned off.
I'm still vaguely irritated that they've apparently decided to ignore all of Missy's character,
I'm still hoping that sometime, somewhere, we'll get at least a nod in the direction of that. Maybe whatever it is he found out about Gallifrey pushed him back towards the evil end of things? (Although I'm actually finding hard to imagine what he might have discovered that he'd actually care about. Still keeping my fingers crossed that it turns out to be worth it ( ... )
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Or a text... after all, they'd been texting each other for years! "Let's meet for lunch" probably would have done it. *g*
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"I am intrigued by whatever deep-mythology thing is going on with the Time Lords."
Me too. I think that is going to be the overarching story for this season. They would hardly have devoted 5 or 10 minutes to it at the end of the episode otherwise. Also I'm sure that before long the Master is going to find a way of escaping from his current predicament and will turn up again before the season is over.
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Yeah, I was sort of thinking that, myself. The more I reflect on it, the more I think it does feature several of the things I usually find flawed about his work, but I was so busy enjoying myself I didn't mind them. Which is good enough for me, I think.
Agreed that it's probably going to be the arc for the season, although I suspect we may have a few more episodes before it's picked up on in a major way again.
Also agree that we almost certainly haven't seen the last of the Master this season. At least, I certainly hope not!
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As for the telepathy I recall Delgado's Master did use it, especially for mind control.
I do like the dig at computer giants using people's data for their own ends because they haven't read the terms and conditions.
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And, yeah, that was an interesting, and genuinely kind of creepy conceit, even if I'm not 100% sure how much sense all of it made.
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I'm puzzled that the Doctor refers to Ada as a descendent of Byron - technically true for a daughter, I suppose, but odd.
Did O say when she should go to Gallifrey? There's, well, a lot of time to choose from.
Has this timeless child been mentioned before, oh walking encyclopedia of Doctorness?
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I've seen a lot of theories around that suggest that you can't travel into Gallifrey's past, somehow, relative to your own timestream. I'm not entirely sure how that would work, but it would explain a lot.
The timeless child thing was mentioned once last season, when some random aliens were saying cryptic things about the Doctor's past, no doubt as setup for whatever they're doing with it this season. It was never mentioned before that, though.
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You mean relative to where a timelord is in time (which is after all easily changed) or that they can never go back earlier than their most recent visit? But wasn't there an episode with child Doctor in a barn wanting a story read to him? And I gather there've been young Doctor and Master as friends, though I don't know if that was a visit or a flashback, or maybe just referred to.
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And I gather there've been young Doctor and Master as friends, though I don't know if that was a visit or a flashback, or maybe just referred to.
It's been mentioned repeatedly, but never shown. The closest we've got was one very brief flashback of the Master as an eight-year-old kid.
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