Avengers Age of Ultron thoughts

[astolat]

OK, I saw it tonight! Massive spoilers here under the cut-tags! I had a reasonably good time at the movie, but, er, you probably can't tell by the relative volumes of what's under the cuts? My main reaction was, it was fine, I didn't have a bad time watching, it kept flowing nicely, but I just didn't care much about it the whole time.

Comments

[destina]

I'm glad you were able to be articulate about the thing with Nat and kids, because I was mostly struggling to explain why it bothered me so much. But you laid it out well. IT REALLY BOTHERED ME.

[citrusjava]

For what it's worth, almost every person I know who watched that was pissed off and shocked. At times pretty expressively.

[astolat]

Yeah, it was just terrible! I mean, I can go on even more (and have above lol) but it was just so infuriating to me. It was a completely broken conversation, and it was a conversation that really needed to NOT be broken.

[citrusjava]

Yup. Natasha. The sterilization. The door.

I would have preferred for the movie to end with the twins moving in with the poly team and there being lot of happy incest fic with plenty of character development.

I can't believe a movie with so many characters I am fond of, made me feel more distance from pretty much all of them. I hate that the base is now so military.

ETA: I have to ask for opinions here - didn't Joss use to be able to write awesome women characters? What happened? Did the world change? Did he change? Did I?

[astolat]

For my part, I am inclined to be kinder to Joss -- if you read Cesperanza's tumblr she had a good Doylist post about the show. As a viewer of the movie, I don't care, in that I'm only interested in my final experience. But in terms of analyzing his performance, I can't say that I'd judge him based on this movie and I do agree that Joss had a really tough job to do here because of the massive set of constraints

[citrusjava]

I agree with your points about this movie. It was a very complicated project, and must have required tremendous planning, skill and grace to even be airborne. And I agree, regarding those magical five minutes. I hate how often the thing that gets cut is the thing that would have made it work

[citrusjava]

Oh - of course I am not saying he's a terrible writer - he's one of the best writers in the business . And I'm not writing him off - I definitely intend to keep checking out his work! I'm just not excited about it, and not really expecting to get much that I want or need out of it.

[sheron]

[astolat]

Oh you're right, I did like that conversation from Steve too. I would have liked it more if it had been, IDK, supported by more actual character development in the movie. But that's OK. I can write it as him having become much happier and in touch with himself since he met Sam and started getting laid regularly :D :D :D

[amanuensis1]

I ended up enjoying the film mostly and handwaving what I didn't like, but to be honest I'm wallowing in your negative comment all the same--thanks for being yellingly verbal about what you thought didn't work; I kinda need that. ^_^ ETA: And by "yellingly verbal" I mean "unafraid to speak negative opinions eloquently and firmly for those of us who have a harder time doing that." Definitely mean it as a compliment!

[hafital]

I would also have approved of Thor's important moment of "In order to recapture my vision, I must now remove my shirt and bathe in this pool of water"

I laughed because it looked like it could be the holy spring from Highlander. But Duncan didn't take his clothes off for that so now I feel cheated.