Gates, Tardis's, Surfboards, and Hot Looking Guys - The Usual SciFi Trappings

Jun 17, 2007 12:30

Even though it’s early, time for the weekend in review. Well, more like the Saturday in review. Thus far today I have eaten breakfast and made plans to watch some very bad TV with k_julia. We’ve decided it’s best to suffer celebrity crushes and the low points in their careers together. Which reminds me to say “Hi!” to my friends in Vegas ( Read more... )

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elisi June 17 2007, 17:06:53 UTC
V. quickly since I'm not supposed to be here - but did you not watch 'Human Nature' and 'Family of Blood'? You really, really should - *excellent* episodes, and also provide background stuff for 'Utopia' and answer some of your questions here.

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asta77 June 18 2007, 04:05:08 UTC
I've actually watched every episode this season. I know the majority of people loved the two episodes you mentioned and since I was in the teeny tiny minority who didn't, I just refrained from posting about them. My big question on 'Utopia' was was how Jack's entrance didn't match his exit on 'Torchwood' and nothing at this point can seem to answer that.

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elisi June 18 2007, 05:21:11 UTC
since I was in the teeny tiny minority who didn't, I just refrained from posting about them.
Aaah. I was mostly thinking about the Martha thing re. those eps - how The Doctor was as much 'over Rose' as he's going to get for a long time, and he still didn't fall for Martha. I think she kinda accepted that he'll never *love* her. (Can't blame her for being infatuated. I mean who wouldn't be? Jack sure is and he knows its hopeless too.)

how Jack's entrance didn't match his exit on 'Torchwood'
As far as I recall he was sat in the hub when he saw the hand twitch and heard the Tardis - all he had to do was shove it in a backpack and jump on that lift thing they've got, which would take him to the surface in seconds. And then all he has to do is run... OK, so it didn't materialise *inside* Torchwood, but he could have had speakers or something... *curses bad memory*

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asta77 June 19 2007, 00:11:27 UTC
I don't know if Martha has quite accepted it yet, but I hope hearing Jack's conversation with the Doctor about Rose and the Doctor's choice to leave Jack behind is what she needed to realize she has no permanent position in the Doctor's life.

Actually, to my recollection, the TARDIS did materialize in the Torchwood facility. After Jack heard it, he turned around and there was a bright light and a rush of air sent paper flying. That's why I don't understand him being outside running towards it unless maybe he isn't part of Torchwood yet.

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keswindhover June 17 2007, 17:43:27 UTC
I like DT toned down, too. He spent a lot of 'Utopia' running from place to place, racing against time - but he didn't do the hysteria thing, which proves it really isn't needed.

This was an excelelnt episode, pulling a great many things together, but with plenty of humour and interaction and character as well. I'm really looking forward to next week.

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asta77 June 18 2007, 04:08:50 UTC
The running around doesn't bother me. Nine did his fair share of that. But, you put it well, the hysteria accompanying the running was gone and not missed. If in the finale no one is chewing scenery I'll be hopeful for next season that the show is back on track. Now I just need a primer on the Master because I have a feeling I'll need to know something about the guy before next week.

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keswindhover June 18 2007, 13:20:46 UTC
The Wiki page on the Master is pretty succinct.

I want to know what has happened to his TARDIS. It could be posing as a rock on that seashore he was found on!

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mirandaflynn June 17 2007, 19:59:53 UTC
Mmmm. Cap'n Jack.

While I adored Derek Jacobi and especially EVIL Derek Jacobi (faints), I have high hopes for Sam Raimi. He was great in Life on Mars. I'm going to be expecting Gene to smack him upside the head though :)

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asta77 June 18 2007, 04:10:04 UTC
For a second after the regeneration I wondered of they were doing some weird cross-over and the Tardis was on it's way to 1970's London. ;)

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beccatoria June 18 2007, 17:02:35 UTC
Well, since I accidentally encouraged you to watch, I'm really glad you liked the latest episodes of Who. Even I - embittered as I am about certain events on which I shall remain silent - was very impressed by the handling of many of the plot elements.

I went to see FF2 too. Out of a STUPID belief it would somehow be better than the first one (*curse you comic book shop man for lying to me!*)

It was...exactly the same as the first one, quality-wise, I think. I didn't find Johnny particularly more sympathetic. No, wait, maybe I did. I think that I did, or at least would have, if they didn't pull that bizarre Hollywood cliche by having whatserface the military chick show up as his date at the wedding for NO REASON. Because I have a special place in my heart to hate that storyline. Yes. Even in children's movies. Actually, ever since I was a child.

I think that Mr Gruffudd's american accent improved, just slightly, in this one.

The highlight was definitely Laurence Fishburne as the Surfer. Though I was left ( ... )

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asta77 June 18 2007, 17:17:47 UTC
I was kind of pissed the military chick who, for no apparent reason, succumbed to Johnny's 'charms'. Her showing no interest in him was one of the things that made him more sympathetic to me - he seemed to buy himself a clue that he was an ass. ;)

If only Ioan would work on his dancing now. My God was that embarrassing.

Couldn't they have worked some McGuffin (liek the tachyon pulse, WTF?) to, like, give him extra powers?

See, that would have made it work for me. Otherwise we're left with a guy that allowed countless numbers of beings to be killed and planets destroyed until he saw how much Reed and Sue loved each other. Huh?

My friend asked me if we could go as soon as the credits started and I said I hadn't heard about anything at the very end and just as we started walking the Surfer reappeared. That was an oddball teaser. Have you heard that FOX is planning a Surfer-centric film?

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beccatoria June 19 2007, 13:07:13 UTC
I was kind of pissed the military chick who, for no apparent reason, succumbed to Johnny's 'charms'. Her showing no interest in him was one of the things that made him more sympathetic to me - he seemed to buy himself a clue that he was an ass. ;)

Yeah...me too. *sigh*

If only Ioan would work on his dancing now. My God was that embarrassing.

But oddly in-character for Mr Fantastic!

See, that would have made it work for me. Otherwise we're left with a guy that allowed countless numbers of beings to be killed and planets destroyed until he saw how much Reed and Sue loved each other. Huh?

I completely agree. But it wouldn't be the first time that the popular media has decided that their franchise's OTP was more important than, well, everything else EVAAAR. Even Farscape did that. Though they did it with the surprising and wonderful flair of adding that it was a completely reprehensible decision :)

Have you heard that FOX is planning a Surfer-centric film? No. But oooooh. If Lawrence Fisburne voices again, I'll ( ... )

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asta77 June 19 2007, 17:00:29 UTC
There are some in-character things I just never need to see! ;p

I don't think a franchise's OTP should EVER take over. However, if it happens on a series, there is still ample time to focus on other characters and stories. So while the OTP may end up taking up too much focus, there are usually other things to distract you (assuming it's a good show). But when it's a movie, a ninety minute one and one that was trying to convey the message that it takes a team working together to win, then saying it all came down to the love of two people is...odd.

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thedeadlyhook June 18 2007, 19:32:35 UTC
I've actually been kind of fuming hardcore about the Silver Surfer movie - yes, I am a geek, and have read the comics - but I've been trying to decide whether or not to post on it. A lot of my irritations are either geeky or political, and while neither one of those is necessarily a barrier to posting, but... sometimes, you just don't feel like regurgitating all that bile, you know ( ... )

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asta77 June 19 2007, 00:25:16 UTC
I definitely would be interested in you posting your (more in depth) thoughts about FF2. I'm still getting over you are a fan of the first one ( ... )

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thedeadlyhook June 19 2007, 02:04:01 UTC
I definitely would be interested in you posting your (more in depth) thoughts about FF2. I'm still getting over you are a fan of the first one! ;)

Oh, I liked the first one a lot. Not just because of Julian McMahon, although he was probably the reason I originally went to see it, just to see him play Doctor Doom. : ) But I'd gone in with low expectations and was surprised how much I enjoyed it - to my eye, it got everything major about the characters right from the comics, and was just plain fun - it That's what makes their story unique. was really refreshing to see Johnny Storm reacting to having powers with wow, cool!, which I honestly think would be a realistic reaction.

The celebrity angle was rather odd. Sue is lamenting that she and Reed can't raise a family in the environment they are currently in, yet I didn't really see that they were being hounded by the press or public.Exactly. The whole point of the FF in comics is that they're public figures - they have no secret identities, everyone knows their names and address. That' ( ... )

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thedeadlyhook June 19 2007, 02:06:44 UTC
t got everything major about the characters right from the comics, and was just plain fun - it That's what makes their story unique.

The "That's what makes their story unique" part isn't supposed to be in this sentence - please ignore this weird cut-and-paste error. Damn Firefox for making it so hard to see where the cursor is!

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