People were complaining about this one? Huh. I loved it. It gave me the feels and I actually had tears in my eyes for my boys - the scene with Billie and the conversation between the brothers once Dean was resurrected were especially good
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Yeah. I saw a few twitter threads about Sam's lack of storyline so far this season. And I get it - we've had 5 episodes focussing on how Dean is dealing with the losses they've had. There's no doubt I've love to get more insight into Sam's state of mind at the moment, but I actually feel we've been getting a bit of that. Even though it's not said, Jared is pretty good at portraying Sam's feelings without words. I also don't feel that caring for your brother is as problematic as some find it. I remember a lot of complaints when Dean was in that caretake mode - I think it's what makes them work so well - one is down while the other one supports. I don't see it as a lessor storyline.
with such urgency only to apparently go back to the hotel, get changed and wait until dark before going to the haunted house to rescue him
As yes. I wondered if I'd miss something there actually.
I'm less than thrilled about CasYeah. I'm particularly un-thrilled with all this so far. I just wish I felt
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Dean sacrificing himself to save some ghosts just seemed really off to me...I can think of other ways they could have reintroduced him to Billie (and carrying an instant death-and-resurrection kit around with him--what?!?)
Bur what really bothered me was that Sam wasn't given a reaction when Dean revived--he should have been furious at Dean from the scare of losing him after what Sam revealed about how hard he was taking his mom's loss last week!
But at least Dean told the truth about Billie--that is a big change in how they used to hide things...
Bur what really bothered me was that Sam wasn't given a reaction when Dean revived--he should have been furious at Dean from the scare of losing him after what Sam revealed about how hard he was taking his mom's loss last week!
Yes. I think because I was prepared for that (from twitter reactions) that as I was expecting nothing at all, I was relieved that we did get Sam at least looking mighty relieved. For me it simply came down to the episode not being about Dean dying. Sam wasn't given the opportunity to react because it just wasn't at the heart of the episode (sadly, because it would have added another dimension. Imagine how Sam would be if he lost Dean after his recent losses?
Sam revealed about how hard he was taking his mom's loss last week!It's that old chestnut of lack of continuity because of the change of writers. :( What Sam said last week didn't even play into this episode. Sadly
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I'm really enjoying the season so far, and looking forward to a new episode--which is quite different from recent seasons. Like you, I'm going to miss Julian. He was a wonderful personification of the concept of Death, managing to make me shiver and smile at the same time
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I'm enjoying it so far too! I mean, there have been some missed opportunities (and I'm finding it hard to buy Dean being THIS mopey), but overall, there have been some solid eps.
But I actively *hate* that he didn't have as intense an exchange of gazes for Sam as he did for Dean.
Yeah. I think it was totally to play to that side of fandom. Though, that said, I felt that if they really wanted to play to that Dean would have asked for Cas's return when Billie asked. I was expecting it actually and was so damn relieved when he chose the ghosts. And each time he mentioned his mood he mentions Mary (and even Crowley) as well as Cas.
The final zoom was simply for effect and it would have been SO much more powerful and poignant if there was a dual shot of Sam and Dean looking at Cas. It baffles me that Sam is constantly left out of his connection to Cas. He always sticks up for him - even when Dean doesn't.
Oh well. Onward and upward. We'll see where this heads. next.
. I also just felt that he, like us, knew he really wasn't going to die. It was a really strange moment. As much as I felt like, yes, Dean was ready to die if it was his time (he is just THAT tired and over it all), he wasn't actually suicidal. If that makes sense.
That makes perfect sense to me because it's exactly the same way I saw the situation. :) I also thought that Dean was feeling so guilty for what happened to the kid Shawn that he was willing to do really unusual things to save him (plus he didn't think he'd actually die). Dean just wanted desperately to get that win. And to me he asked Billie to free the ghosts so that he's helping people and also protecting Sam from the ghost mayhem.
And to me he asked Billie to free the ghosts so that he's helping people and also protecting Sam from the ghost mayhem.
I like your thinking! There were some complaints about Dean dying without a care for Sam, but I really didn't feel Dean thought he was going to die (I mean, he knows it's only S13 and it's not going to end now! *g*)
Actually, I've seen quite a few people not connecting with this one. It was kinda weird that way.
I WISH I WAS STILL INSPIRED TO VID!! Actually, it's not even the inspiration anyway more... it's mostly time and I have to teach myself a new editing program and I just don't have the time...:((
Great song though! I can't believe how many great songs that beg for a SPN fanvid! I still hope I will find my way back...
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Yeah. I saw a few twitter threads about Sam's lack of storyline so far this season. And I get it - we've had 5 episodes focussing on how Dean is dealing with the losses they've had. There's no doubt I've love to get more insight into Sam's state of mind at the moment, but I actually feel we've been getting a bit of that. Even though it's not said, Jared is pretty good at portraying Sam's feelings without words. I also don't feel that caring for your brother is as problematic as some find it. I remember a lot of complaints when Dean was in that caretake mode - I think it's what makes them work so well - one is down while the other one supports. I don't see it as a lessor storyline.
with such urgency only to apparently go back to the hotel, get changed and wait until dark before going to the haunted house to rescue him
As yes. I wondered if I'd miss something there actually.
I'm less than thrilled about CasYeah. I'm particularly un-thrilled with all this so far. I just wish I felt ( ... )
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Bur what really bothered me was that Sam wasn't given a reaction when Dean revived--he should have been furious at Dean from the scare of losing him after what Sam revealed about how hard he was taking his mom's loss last week!
But at least Dean told the truth about Billie--that is a big change in how they used to hide things...
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Yes. I think because I was prepared for that (from twitter reactions) that as I was expecting nothing at all, I was relieved that we did get Sam at least looking mighty relieved. For me it simply came down to the episode not being about Dean dying. Sam wasn't given the opportunity to react because it just wasn't at the heart of the episode (sadly, because it would have added another dimension. Imagine how Sam would be if he lost Dean after his recent losses?
Sam revealed about how hard he was taking his mom's loss last week!It's that old chestnut of lack of continuity because of the change of writers. :( What Sam said last week didn't even play into this episode. Sadly ( ... )
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But I actively *hate* that he didn't have as intense an exchange of gazes for Sam as he did for Dean.
Yeah. I think it was totally to play to that side of fandom. Though, that said, I felt that if they really wanted to play to that Dean would have asked for Cas's return when Billie asked. I was expecting it actually and was so damn relieved when he chose the ghosts. And each time he mentioned his mood he mentions Mary (and even Crowley) as well as Cas.
The final zoom was simply for effect and it would have been SO much more powerful and poignant if there was a dual shot of Sam and Dean looking at Cas. It baffles me that Sam is constantly left out of his connection to Cas. He always sticks up for him - even when Dean doesn't.
Oh well. Onward and upward. We'll see where this heads. next.
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That makes perfect sense to me because it's exactly the same way I saw the situation. :) I also thought that Dean was feeling so guilty for what happened to the kid Shawn that he was willing to do really unusual things to save him (plus he didn't think he'd actually die). Dean just wanted desperately to get that win. And to me he asked Billie to free the ghosts so that he's helping people and also protecting Sam from the ghost mayhem.
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I like your thinking! There were some complaints about Dean dying without a care for Sam, but I really didn't feel Dean thought he was going to die (I mean, he knows it's only S13 and it's not going to end now! *g*)
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Actually, I've seen quite a few people not connecting with this one. It was kinda weird that way.
I WISH I WAS STILL INSPIRED TO VID!! Actually, it's not even the inspiration anyway more... it's mostly time and I have to teach myself a new editing program and I just don't have the time...:((
Great song though! I can't believe how many great songs that beg for a SPN fanvid! I still hope I will find my way back...
*hugs*
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