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ash48 March 27 2015, 14:00:48 UTC
Smart!lamp! \o/ Nice when he's switched on!

I have to confess I am TOTALLY over Crowley's story line. I've never been a huge fan, but lately it's just yawn worthy. I just don't care about him (he's a murderer and torturer - why would I?), so I pretty much switch off during his scenes - unless it involved one of the boys.

More Luci would be awesome!

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quickreaver March 26 2015, 15:30:58 UTC
I have many thoughts but I will say I agree with a lot of your review! I'll expound after working out... :)

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ash48 March 26 2015, 22:42:45 UTC
I've discovered I have quite a lot of thoughts after that one. I didn't put them all here, but more that might come out in discussion. There was probably some parallels in the story lines, but I didn't try very hard to work them out. I look forward to your thoughts. :)

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amypond45 March 26 2015, 15:53:10 UTC
i enjoyed tDean's discussions with the nun and the priest about mission and belief. When Dean answered the priest's question about "Do you believe in God?" I immediately thought of Chuck. Cuz he's back and maybe he'll step in at the last minute and actually prove Dean wrong, eh? Yeah!

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spnmonster March 26 2015, 23:00:49 UTC
Yeah, that occurred to me as well that it might be a bit of foreshadowing or at least leaving that possibility open.

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ash48 March 27 2015, 14:03:03 UTC
Hmmm, possibly. I've never believed Chuck to be god, but I figure that was confirmed when he reappeared at the 200th? I rather like that God is absent, it makes more sense that they've been through the shit. That's not to say I wouldn't love to see some greater being give thanks to the boys for everything they've done for the human race.

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amypond45 March 28 2015, 23:51:55 UTC
I get the sense that if "God" ever showed up as a character on this show, he wouldn't be very thankful. He'd probably be a class-A jerk, like he is in the Old Testament, kavetching about how they didn't follow his plans the way they were supposed to because they were too full of themselves and their clumsy attempts at "free will." Pure silly speculation...truth is, I could see God as a character on this show, and I have to admit I love the idea, so I'm hoping they DO bring him in at some point, if only so we can write it better!

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Meh freels65 March 26 2015, 15:57:38 UTC
I had a meeting last night and rushed home to watch Show, and was disappointed as well. While Dean's dialogue in the confessional was both funny and heart-wrenching and Sam brilliantly saved the day, I felt the rest was slow and plodding. I had to rewatch Dean's confession to see what all the fuss was about. I don't ship D/C that much so it went right by me, I guess, until the rewatch.

Maybe the writers are trying to hard to weave Rowena into the story, but the dialogue between her and Crowley seemed forced. I love both actors; it just seemed that they didn't have much to work with last night. Maybe next week, they'll flesh out the story a bit more, but I thought the witch/hamster thing was a bit cheesy.

Nuns in makeup? Good question. The church was gorgeous, though. (I work in one that's Gothic-style, too. Just love 'em.) And Jerry Wanek's sets are always perfect. He's brilliant. :)

All in all, a strange episode that had a couple small reveals........I can't help but wonder what's next.

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Re: Meh fufaraw March 26 2015, 17:07:54 UTC
Yeah, that church. Same church from S2.E13, Houses of the Holy, and "Ben's church" from the Pollo Loco ep, S1.E16 of Dark Angel. It's been used in other series, too. It's a pretty popular Van location, sort of like Riverside hospital.

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Re: Meh ash48 March 27 2015, 14:36:17 UTC
Absolutely agree about jerry's sets! I loved the church.

I liked Rowena when she first appeared, but the whole thing is wearing a bit thin for me. It's mostly personal because I essentially just don't care about the characters. They're not nice so it's hard to care what happens to them.

don't ship D/C that much so it went right by me,

I don't either, but I've become attuned to interpretations and I knew that's exactly how that would be interpreted. It's got nothing to do with where it's going (I assume!), so I'm left being curious exactly what he was referring to.

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amberdreams March 26 2015, 15:58:29 UTC
Re: Dean's confession - I thought all his stuff about women was lying for the sake of the eavesdropping ghost, not least because there was such a marked change in his voice and face and overall demeanour when he started talking about dying. That part all rang true, whereas the previous bit, not so much ( ... )

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ash48 March 26 2015, 22:52:18 UTC
I thought all his stuff about women was lying for the sake of the eavesdropping ghost,

Oh yes! Absolutely! It was a total lie (I know some thought he was telling the truth). He was making it up to catch the ghost. It was interesting that he chose to make his fake confession about how he treats women. Maybe there is some real guilt there or maybe it's the one thing he doesn't actually feel guilty about. It was also there to contrast he real confession. At first I wondered what on earth was going on - then it became clear.

that didn't occur to me for even a second. Whoosh! Over my head if it was there.

I wish that was for me too. I have no idea what it seemed so loud. I'm thinking now it was more about all the people in his life - finally opening up and letting them into his thoughts (though it didn't happen at the end, so may be not).

I think he was flirting a bit but then by the end of their conversation he was taking her seriously Yeah, more flirting than hitting on probably. I see how the conversation became more ( ... )

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amberdreams March 26 2015, 23:05:34 UTC
Ah sorry I misread the emphasis in your post there I think (about the women thing)! But I don't think it's odd he chose that topic because they knew the ghost was picking out men who were unfaithful cheaters so that's how he had to portray himself to get her interest.

Actually, thinking about it, it makes NO sense that she then went after the priest for forgiving Dean, talk about an over-reaction... I mean, he'd forgiven all those other men too after all, and she hadn't objected to that... Huh.

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ash48 March 26 2015, 23:31:37 UTC
yes yes, of course.../o\ I really did tune out it seemed…

It makes NO sense that she then went after the priest for forgiving Dean, talk about an over-reaction

Yeah, there were a few things that didn't make sense (it was a Duo ep!). It was Just there for dramatic effect. She couldn't have gone after Dean so quickly...

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