It isn't so much that Koschei doesn't notice women as that he doesn't notice anyone unless their name starts with Theta. This point is beautifully and clearly articulated throughout the entire story.
I also had a few people tell me this line is hilarious. I suspect that any hilarity comes from the irony of the Master worrying about informed consent. I like the line the first time I read it, but your commentary on it makes it that much more hilarious.
Basically, the Master controls everything he can just to spend a little bit of time with the one thing he can't. This line made me go, "Awww." Which, um, is weird.
...a result of his failure to push the issue right now when it most matters.
That's perfect, right there. You're right, it does always sort of feel like it's too late for the Master, but you're right about this, too. There was a very brief window and he missed it.
What is funny about the informed consent besides the irony?? Inquiring minds want to know!
I think "aww" is a perfectly valid reaction to the Master's approach towards life and the Doctor! It's a bit creepy and fucked up; that doesn't mean it can't also be weirdly sweet.
The crazy thing is there is always a very brief window, which the Doctor always misses. So when the Master turns up again in Sound of Drums, the Doctor thinks, "I know how this one goes! I probably can save him ..." and, shit, finally the window is closed for reals.
just watched 'colony in space' and... the master steals the matrix/copies the data and no one ever takes it back from him (i think), so well done there, time lords. of course people can get into it - maybe the master even sold access to bits of it on the black market when in desperate need of funds. now every has a copy or knows someone with a copy, very like how everyone has an illegal copy of colony despite the bbc's best attempts to stop them.
...Dear god, you're right. The Time Lords are all, "Okay, Doctor! Go fetch!" and then he ... turns down the Master's offer to rule the universe together, and they both go off to sulk, and the Time Lords never get their data back. I am laughing so hard now.
The best he can do on the subject of the Master is indignance, disparaging remarks, and the occasional remark about the Master being his best enemy.
Not said to the Master himself, but he does a little bit better when Jo calls him on the Master love in Sea Devils. In reply to her "you felt sorry for him, didn't you? You wanted to make sure he is alright", he says "well, he used to be a friend of mine - a very good friend - in fact, you might say we were", no pause for weirdest climax ever, "at school together". Which is as direct an admission of fondness you get pre-Ten, I think. To the Master himself, I think we do get some expressions of concern, usually along with sarcasm, as in "you want to be careful with that machine of yours, Professor Keller", or "are you feeling alright, old chap?", but that's it. All of which goes to say: you're right, the Doctor is bad with the verbal expression of love. Great with body language, but lousy with the words.
(Seven, when he thinks the Brig has died in Battlefield, is a case in point. He
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Oh, good point -- I love that conversation in Sea Devils, so I should have remembered that. Although in that one I think it's more the fact that he's agreeing with Jo's assessment than the actual words he uses. Three is very good at almost saying things, or letting other people say them instead and not disagreeing.
(Oh my god you're right. I saw Battlefield fairly recently, and that scene was hilarious. Oh Doctor, never change.)
Thinking more about the Doctor expressing affection verbally: One comes actually close to the l-word than most regenerations when saying "you are very dear to me" to Cameca. As I watched The Atztecs after I had seen Girl in the Fireplace, the similarities were really glaring, down to the Doctor taking the letter (Reinette)/talisman (Cameca) in his hand, looking at it wistfully and standing sadly in the console room once the companions have gone, while not showing them how he feels. Also, given One hits on Cameca way before finding out she knows useful information: how that asexual idea ever could come up is beyond me, because while he hadn't intended to get engaged, he definitely intentionally flirted with her, and responded to her anything but asexually. Their farewell scene when he can't bring himself to look at her is pretty much typical for the Doctor in later regenerations, too
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One/Cameca makes me sort of unreasonably happy. The whole thing was so incredibly mature and charming, and I kept getting Girl in the Fireplace flashbacks also, especially during that last scene. (Honestly I kept expecting him to invite her along, and then circumstances conspiring at the last minute to cause her to stay behind.) I just love that he's not being flirty to be manipulative but because he's honestly attracted to her. I feel all warm and fuzzy now. :D
(I seriously need to listen to some Eight audios. He tells her he loves her and THE UNIVERSE NEARLY EXPLODES? That's amazing. Actually I probably haven't investigated much Eight stuff because even these little tidbits make me grin like a loon, and I don't want to turn into an embarrassing Eight fangirl. It may already be too late.)
(I wonder what happened to a lot of old companions during the year that wasn't. You can't tell me that Jo didn't immediately pack up and go to find the Doctor and give the Master a good talking to; I can't decide whether she died
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It isn't so much that Koschei doesn't notice women as that he doesn't notice anyone unless their name starts with Theta. This point is beautifully and clearly articulated throughout the entire story.
I also had a few people tell me this line is hilarious. I suspect that any hilarity comes from the irony of the Master worrying about informed consent. I like the line the first time I read it, but your commentary on it makes it that much more hilarious.
Basically, the Master controls everything he can just to spend a little bit of time with the one thing he can't. This line made me go, "Awww." Which, um, is weird.
...a result of his failure to push the issue right now when it most matters.
That's perfect, right there. You're right, it does always sort of feel like it's too late for the Master, but you're right about this, too. There was a very brief window and he missed it.
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I think "aww" is a perfectly valid reaction to the Master's approach towards life and the Doctor! It's a bit creepy and fucked up; that doesn't mean it can't also be weirdly sweet.
The crazy thing is there is always a very brief window, which the Doctor always misses. So when the Master turns up again in Sound of Drums, the Doctor thinks, "I know how this one goes! I probably can save him ..." and, shit, finally the window is closed for reals.
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Not said to the Master himself, but he does a little bit better when Jo calls him on the Master love in Sea Devils. In reply to her "you felt sorry for him, didn't you? You wanted to make sure he is alright", he says "well, he used to be a friend of mine - a very good friend - in fact, you might say we were", no pause for weirdest climax ever, "at school together". Which is as direct an admission of fondness you get pre-Ten, I think. To the Master himself, I think we do get some expressions of concern, usually along with sarcasm, as in "you want to be careful with that machine of yours, Professor Keller", or "are you feeling alright, old chap?", but that's it. All of which goes to say: you're right, the Doctor is bad with the verbal expression of love. Great with body language, but lousy with the words.
(Seven, when he thinks the Brig has died in Battlefield, is a case in point. He ( ... )
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(Oh my god you're right. I saw Battlefield fairly recently, and that scene was hilarious. Oh Doctor, never change.)
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One/Cameca makes me sort of unreasonably happy. The whole thing was so incredibly mature and charming, and I kept getting Girl in the Fireplace flashbacks also, especially during that last scene. (Honestly I kept expecting him to invite her along, and then circumstances conspiring at the last minute to cause her to stay behind.) I just love that he's not being flirty to be manipulative but because he's honestly attracted to her. I feel all warm and fuzzy now. :D
(I seriously need to listen to some Eight audios. He tells her he loves her and THE UNIVERSE NEARLY EXPLODES? That's amazing. Actually I probably haven't investigated much Eight stuff because even these little tidbits make me grin like a loon, and I don't want to turn into an embarrassing Eight fangirl. It may already be too late.)
(I wonder what happened to a lot of old companions during the year that wasn't. You can't tell me that Jo didn't immediately pack up and go to find the Doctor and give the Master a good talking to; I can't decide whether she died ( ... )
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