Socialism and Obama

Nov 11, 2008 14:49

So, lots of people have been pulling out the big 'S' lately.  I felt it important to clarify a few things in that regard.

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seanorange November 12 2008, 01:55:33 UTC
"I'd be fine with anything that came up if I honestly believed the American people were voting with their heads and not with the headlines."

I don't think you'd be fine with it, but that's an awesome quote.

I think you're right about people being afraid of losing the healthcare they already don't have, but I think others still are afraid of getting shittier healthcare than the already-shitty healthcare they have.

Did I write this anywhere? Probably not: We don't have a healthcare system, we have a health insurance system. We are systematically disappointed with its performance because we keep asking it to do things it wasn't designed to do.

Of course companies find ways not to pay out. It's not even really a pool of money -- it's all "income", and any payout is a "cost", and companies are supposed to reduce costs. It's a little hard for me to fault a company for living up to its mandate. What I AM mad at is how people have come to entrust these companies with their livelihood (because what else are they supposed to do?) and ( ... )

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aremisasling November 12 2008, 06:07:13 UTC
My favorite bit of trivia to toss at republicans is about a group of people who believe that the rich and super-rich should not only pay their fair share of taxes, but should pay more. So who are members of this group? Hippies? no. Communists? no. welfare suckers? no. Three of this small group's most prominent members are Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, and Bill Gates' father. I say instead of asking the poor and middle class schmucks in the republican party what they think rich people want, let's give the actual rich people what they are asking for.

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aremisasling November 12 2008, 06:10:24 UTC
Oh, and I would certainly be fine with it if I felt it was actually what people believed was right given the evidence. I may move to Canada, but I'd be okay with the US deciding that.

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aremisasling November 12 2008, 06:17:20 UTC
I should have made this all part of one reply, but alas, I did not.

I don't recall reading that from you before, but you make some fabulous points. You have a very enlightening viewpoint on the subject.

That's why when McCain and the maverick bunch came out with their 'alternative' to the bailout that involved setting up a massive insurance system for the banks it worried me to no end. Unfortunately, even if we went universal health care, the government is still beholden to the shareholders (read taxpayers) and will try to provide the least care necessary. That's what lead to the infamous British health care system. But it can be done well, as it is in pretty much the whole of scandinavia, switzerland, france and the netherlands, to name a few.

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