S2 Veronica Mars, Logan & Veronica Meme/Picspan -- Favorites and Not
Since this was such a success, here's a Season 2 VM/Logan/Veronica meme. As in the first one, feel free to respond here or at your own livejournal, but if you do respond at your livejournal, please post here and let me know because I'd love to read any responses. If you haven't filled out the first one yet, but plan on it, please still do. It's been a blast to read all responses. Since this was created for a Logan/Veronica board, there's a specific L/V section, for anyone who does want to fill this out, but isn't into L/V, just skip that section.
Respond to the following questions (with reasons if you're so inclined) but all of the responses should be about season two and only season two. This is separated into two categories: Veronica Mars (the show) and Logan/Veronica.
Veronica Mars
Favorite Episode
Least Favorite Episode
Favorite Line
Favorite Scene
Favorite Character
Least Favorite Character
Favorite non Logan or Veronica Character (n/a if answered above)
Favorite Recurring High Schooler
Favorite Recurring Adult
Least Favorite recurring High Schooler
Least Favorite recurring Regular Adult
Best parent
Worst Parent
Logan/Veronica
Favorite L/V Scene
Favorite Moment
Most Romantic Moment
Most Unexpected Romantic Moment
Most Intense Moment
Saddest Moment
Sexiest Moment
Most Playful Moment
Most Hopeful Moment
Best Kiss
Favorite Line
- Logan
- Veronica
Most Romantic Line
- Logan
- Veronica
Most Angsty Line
- Logan
- Veronica
Best Look Exchanged Overall
- Logan
- Veronica
(I used caps from Jem's vm-caps..)
Veronica Mars
Favorite Episode - I Am God. I thought the use of the dreams was beautifully done and while it actually didn't do anything to advance the plot, it felt like we got a glimpse into Veronica being truly affected by the events that had happened. There was just wonderful direction, the script was dreamy (pun intended) and the performances were wonderful. Not to mention that I adored the Logan/Wallace interaction. This was the one episode that showed all of the main cast (with the exception of TD who was gone by then, TT who never made much of an impact and EC who didn't have as big a role) to shine. Everything was just so spot-on, the script, the direction, the cast (credited, recurring and guest) ... everything just worked.
Least Favorite Episode - This is actually pretty hard. Last season there were a few episodes I was meh on, but none I hated. This season offered five episodes that had they never aired, I would be a happier TV viewer. Narrowing it down, I'm going to go with the one that emotionally left me disgusted, whose script was utterly ridiculous with lackluster dialogue and plot holes so big you could drive a battlestar spaceship through, the one that featured subpar performances from everyone -- including KB(!) and JD(!!) -- except for EC (who was barely in the ep) and the guest star. This would be the episode that was stupid, that was annoying, that was a complete waste of time, space, energy, thought, anything and everything! And of course, I'm talking about the complete lameness that was Donut Run.
(Again, no visuals for least favorites.)
Favorite Line - I'm going to fire the Sheriff. (Logan in Plan B) Just one of those laugh-out lines that just caught me. I chose this one because the "plug her right" line, Weevil's "forgive me father" were the first ones that came to mind and the plug her references VD and the "forgive me father" isn't exactly an original line. So, this one it is. And delivery helps a heckuva lot and the delivery was delicious.
Favorite Scene - Veronica deciding to not tell Harry that Liam Fitzpatrick was the one who killed his dog in Nevermind the Buttocks. To quote my thoughts in the ep thread: Veronica has done a lot of unethical things in pursuit of the truth, and we mostly let that slide because of this last scene. She IS a good person at heart and her unethical deeds don't hurt anyone that she knows of and that is what this final scene signified.
I loved the whole feeling behind it, that she could easily take care of the guy who terrorized her, terrorized tons and tons of other people, would have killed her father had she not removed those bullets ... and she chose not to. She had the power of life and death in her hands and she chose life. She made the right choice. This scene illustrated so eloquently and beautifully just what kind of person Veronica is and why I love her so.
(Note, there were no screencaps of Harry available, so I did a little creative addition to this one.)
Favorite Character - Logan. I love him. There are so many shades of gray, layers, good and bad, right and wrong and unlike pretty much every other character on this show, I continue to understand the majority of his actions and while not agreeing with his response, I get WHY he responded as he did. And Jason Dohring just knocked the socks out of just about every scene he was given, giving so much more depth to this character than his creator clearly even saw.
Least Favorite Character - Big shocker here! Hannah! Miss Pink Pastel was written about as one-note and cliched as a character could be written. And the actress delivered a performance that was even worse, not only was it one-note, it was delivered in a note of such extreme irritating blahness and could her voice be any more annoying? Ugh, ugh, ugh!!!!!!!!!!!! FYI: I didn't list Duncan because I don't actually hate the character, I hate that he was V's boyfriend (considering the history), but the character himself gets nothing more than a meh out of me.
Favorite non Logan or Veronica Character (n/a if answered above) - I know he was partially responsible (more than anyone else by far than Beaver) for Veronica's rape. I know he's an amoral, immoral, despicable, pathetic, terrible person ... but, I can't help it. I love Dick. I know I shouldn't, but Ryan Hansen is just so damn good and instead of hating the character for his history, I find myself hating what his history is and wishing it were different! I can't help it and the show clearly wants it that way and in this, they win.
Favorite Recurring High Schooler Corny. Meg was pretty much gone after episode one (damn that! I still hate what happened to Meg!) and I'm just not on the Mac-train (although I like her a lot more now) like everyone else. Corny was always an enjoyable element added to any episode. I hope we see him at Hearst.
Favorite Recurring Adult - The first half of the season it would have been Mr. Pope no question (even allowing for my love of Clemmons and Cliff), but he disappeared early on and was replaced by the awesomeness of Wu! If I could have any school official somehow moved over to Hearst it would Be Mr. Wu. I just love, love, LOVE him. Dude, someone who can snark with the best of 'em (ie, Logan Echolls) and still be the nerdiest of horrific-rapping teachers as well as wise and kind is just too wonderful to lose. So much love for Martin Yu's Mr. Wu. Long live WU!!!!!!!!!!!!
Least Favorite recurring High Schooler - Hannah. See above.
Least Favorite recurring Regular Adult - Lamb. I dislike him. Sure he has his funny lines, but so does every other character on the show. He's smarmy, sleazy and a complete and utter uncaring asshole. I want him off my screen. (Yes, yes, I know it won't happen, I am so in the minority here.)
Best parent - And still winning by a landslide, the Keithster. Which really is sad because he really did drop the ball in terms of letting things slide. He's disappointed her in one ep and the next and thereafter all is hunky-dory.
Worst Parent - And still winning by a landslide, Aaron Echolls. (Although the Mannings sucked too!)
Logan and Veronica ...
Favorite LoVe Scene - I can't believe I'm listing this since they discuss the Donut's sex life, but I'd have to say just for sheer overall enjoyment factor, the locker scene at the beginning of Look Who's Stalking. There was no animosity, there was flirting, banter and this sweetness that we rarely saw in season two. While I enjoyed sway, the Epic scene, their final scene and the few make-out scenes they got, this one had actual depth and conversation and just sang.
Favorite Moment - Logan dropping Veronica's bags and then pulling her into his arms, kissing/spinning in Not Pictured. I probably have watched that moment (before they start talking) about a zillion times. Okay maybe not that much, but more than any other bit this season.
Most Romantic Moment - I gotta go back to Veronica taking Logan's hand while he switched his bag to his shoulder when meeting him at summer school in Normal is the Watchword. I know it was a flashback and leading to bad things, but there was such a tender sweetness that I've adored from the first moment I saw it.
Most Unexpected Romantic Moment - As much as I loved the kissing/spinning from NP, while the action was unexpected, you kinda knew something was coming judging by how she looked at him when he showed up, so I'm going to go with the one that completely was unexpected and that would be The Dance in PB. Totally unexpected, totally delicious and totally squeed over!
Most Intense Moment - The rooftop scene when Logan kept telling her she wasn't a killer. 'Nuff said.
Saddest Moment - (Since this pertains to their relationship, I'm not including the NP stuff because that was about Keith and the events happening.) Veronica at the Neptune Grand when Kendall showed up behind Logan in LWS. There were (sadly) many moments to choose from, but it was really easy when it came down to it to choose. Part of that ease came from the fact that this was the only instance where both were sad (for essentially the same reason). The look on both of their faces (especially Veronica's) was just soooo heartbreaking. Have elevator doors closing ever been this sad?! {{Sob}}
Sexiest Moment - Dude, no question: The IAG make-out. That was HOT! I loved this scene so much that I'm willing to let my normal pouty bias slide. When I don't get a lot of making out, I tend to be aggravated when what we do get is shrouded in darkness, has credits over it or some other form of getting in the way of the hot stuff. Well, in this one, the icky S2 filter is in place and their dang heads are cut off through most of the scene (and there's that really bad cut, but that's neither here nor there). However, as I said, I'm able to put aside that bias and just enjoy the scene, even the severed heads bit because it SO works for the scene. The direction and camera cuts do a wonderful job of showing the intense, out of control passion these two share. I loved it.
Most Playful Moment - The high-five in PB. Cute. They had a few others (the "because you're five?" knee dip), but this one I liked because Veronica initiated it IN playfulness, didn't apologize and Logan decided to go along IN playfulness. It was just a fun, peaceful moment between them -- snarking and making light of the suckiness of life.
Most Hopeful Moment - Logan asking her to the alterna-prom in LWS. He was so clearly wanting her to be there, if not with him, just at least be there. The looking down, the desperate trying to hide how much he wanted her there, the yearning look on his face as she walked away ... sigh.
Best Kiss - Not much to choose from here (grrr), so I'll go with the obvious choice: The kiss in the hallway at the end of NP. Sigh. The kissing and the spinning. And seriously, I did watch about it a hundred times the first few days after the episode aired. Seriously, at least a hundred times. This is no lie.
Favorite Line
- Logan: Veronica ... ask not what Logan can do for you, but what you can do for Logan. (PB) Cute, silly, charming, totally, totally Logan, and of all of the presidents to paraphrase he chooses the most infamous womanizer in US history. Ah, Logan. And what makes it even sweeter is that he's off doing his "civic" duty as reward based on an assignment in what appears to be ... wait for it ... an American history class. I love it.
- Veronica: A pony?!?! (It was all in the delivery!) (NP) Seriously, I see the words and automatically grin. I love, love, love, LOVED it!!!
Most Romantic Line
- Logan: What I'm trying to say is I'm in love with you. (NitW) I know it didn't end happily or romantically. I know she didn't respond with anything other than a lame-ass joke, but still ... he said it, he meant it and it was romantic.
- Veronica: I don't want to lose you from my life either. (LWS) It was the first time ALL FRICKIN' SEASON that Veronica acknowledged that Logan held any importance for her. And it was said when she came back to him after running away, the very first time she's ever done that. Yes, again like above, it ended badly, but she said it, she meant it and it was romantic.
Most Angsty Line
- Logan: FYI, if the cuddling is the best part, he didn't do it right. (DE) This was just painful because this was Logan trying to be an ass, trying to show her he didn't care by snarking, but the look in his eyes, the tone of his voice, guh! it just broke my heart. He was in so much pain, but he still loves her so much that he couldn't even lash out properly. Poor woobie Logan.
- Veronica: A gun, Logan! A gun! What are you doing with a gun!? You're going to get yourself killed, don't you understand that? (AM) And here's the flip of the coin. Above I felt for woobie Logan who said the words. Here, I feel for woobie Logan hearing the words. Honestly, this line would be on here for different reasons had Kristen Bell done with an-as-written-cruel line what Jason Dohring did, which is imbue her emotional heart in it. Show that beneath the words, Veronica was suffering as much as Logan. Instead, all I got was a bitchy Veronica who didn't even have the common decency to thank him for saving her life. I can see where it should have been about Veronica's fear for his life, but I didn't read that in KB's performance. I read fear for Veronica's life and disgusted hatred for Logan. And that's why it breaks my heart ... in a bad way, unlike the good way above. Had KB delivered the line as Rob Thomas intended (he described the scene's subtext in an interview), this might still be on here as the angsty line, but it would be in the good way. Alas, it's not.
Best Look Exchanged Overall
- Logan: The look on his face as the window is rolling up in the makeout flashback in IAG right as he says, "Hi." So sweet. Sigh.
- Veronica: When Logan showed up at the end of NP, she shot him a look of such beaming love. Sigh.
Oh, and since this is a picspam (with me going just a leetle overboard), not safe for dial-up.
Respond to the following questions (with reasons if you're so inclined) but all of the responses should be about season two and only season two. This is separated into two categories: Veronica Mars (the show) and Logan/Veronica.
Veronica Mars
Logan/Veronica
- Logan
- Veronica
- Logan
- Veronica
- Logan
- Veronica
- Logan
- Veronica
(I used caps from Jem's vm-caps..)
Veronica Mars
Favorite Episode - I Am God. I thought the use of the dreams was beautifully done and while it actually didn't do anything to advance the plot, it felt like we got a glimpse into Veronica being truly affected by the events that had happened. There was just wonderful direction, the script was dreamy (pun intended) and the performances were wonderful. Not to mention that I adored the Logan/Wallace interaction. This was the one episode that showed all of the main cast (with the exception of TD who was gone by then, TT who never made much of an impact and EC who didn't have as big a role) to shine. Everything was just so spot-on, the script, the direction, the cast (credited, recurring and guest) ... everything just worked.
Least Favorite Episode - This is actually pretty hard. Last season there were a few episodes I was meh on, but none I hated. This season offered five episodes that had they never aired, I would be a happier TV viewer. Narrowing it down, I'm going to go with the one that emotionally left me disgusted, whose script was utterly ridiculous with lackluster dialogue and plot holes so big you could drive a battlestar spaceship through, the one that featured subpar performances from everyone -- including KB(!) and JD(!!) -- except for EC (who was barely in the ep) and the guest star. This would be the episode that was stupid, that was annoying, that was a complete waste of time, space, energy, thought, anything and everything! And of course, I'm talking about the complete lameness that was Donut Run.
(Again, no visuals for least favorites.)
Favorite Line - I'm going to fire the Sheriff. (Logan in Plan B) Just one of those laugh-out lines that just caught me. I chose this one because the "plug her right" line, Weevil's "forgive me father" were the first ones that came to mind and the plug her references VD and the "forgive me father" isn't exactly an original line. So, this one it is. And delivery helps a heckuva lot and the delivery was delicious.
Favorite Scene - Veronica deciding to not tell Harry that Liam Fitzpatrick was the one who killed his dog in Nevermind the Buttocks. To quote my thoughts in the ep thread: Veronica has done a lot of unethical things in pursuit of the truth, and we mostly let that slide because of this last scene. She IS a good person at heart and her unethical deeds don't hurt anyone that she knows of and that is what this final scene signified.
I loved the whole feeling behind it, that she could easily take care of the guy who terrorized her, terrorized tons and tons of other people, would have killed her father had she not removed those bullets ... and she chose not to. She had the power of life and death in her hands and she chose life. She made the right choice. This scene illustrated so eloquently and beautifully just what kind of person Veronica is and why I love her so.
(Note, there were no screencaps of Harry available, so I did a little creative addition to this one.)
Favorite Character - Logan. I love him. There are so many shades of gray, layers, good and bad, right and wrong and unlike pretty much every other character on this show, I continue to understand the majority of his actions and while not agreeing with his response, I get WHY he responded as he did. And Jason Dohring just knocked the socks out of just about every scene he was given, giving so much more depth to this character than his creator clearly even saw.
Least Favorite Character - Big shocker here! Hannah! Miss Pink Pastel was written about as one-note and cliched as a character could be written. And the actress delivered a performance that was even worse, not only was it one-note, it was delivered in a note of such extreme irritating blahness and could her voice be any more annoying? Ugh, ugh, ugh!!!!!!!!!!!! FYI: I didn't list Duncan because I don't actually hate the character, I hate that he was V's boyfriend (considering the history), but the character himself gets nothing more than a meh out of me.
Favorite non Logan or Veronica Character (n/a if answered above) - I know he was partially responsible (more than anyone else by far than Beaver) for Veronica's rape. I know he's an amoral, immoral, despicable, pathetic, terrible person ... but, I can't help it. I love Dick. I know I shouldn't, but Ryan Hansen is just so damn good and instead of hating the character for his history, I find myself hating what his history is and wishing it were different! I can't help it and the show clearly wants it that way and in this, they win.
Favorite Recurring High Schooler Corny. Meg was pretty much gone after episode one (damn that! I still hate what happened to Meg!) and I'm just not on the Mac-train (although I like her a lot more now) like everyone else. Corny was always an enjoyable element added to any episode. I hope we see him at Hearst.
Favorite Recurring Adult - The first half of the season it would have been Mr. Pope no question (even allowing for my love of Clemmons and Cliff), but he disappeared early on and was replaced by the awesomeness of Wu! If I could have any school official somehow moved over to Hearst it would Be Mr. Wu. I just love, love, LOVE him. Dude, someone who can snark with the best of 'em (ie, Logan Echolls) and still be the nerdiest of horrific-rapping teachers as well as wise and kind is just too wonderful to lose. So much love for Martin Yu's Mr. Wu. Long live WU!!!!!!!!!!!!
Least Favorite recurring High Schooler - Hannah. See above.
Least Favorite recurring Regular Adult - Lamb. I dislike him. Sure he has his funny lines, but so does every other character on the show. He's smarmy, sleazy and a complete and utter uncaring asshole. I want him off my screen. (Yes, yes, I know it won't happen, I am so in the minority here.)
Best parent - And still winning by a landslide, the Keithster. Which really is sad because he really did drop the ball in terms of letting things slide. He's disappointed her in one ep and the next and thereafter all is hunky-dory.
Worst Parent - And still winning by a landslide, Aaron Echolls. (Although the Mannings sucked too!)
Logan and Veronica ...
Favorite LoVe Scene - I can't believe I'm listing this since they discuss the Donut's sex life, but I'd have to say just for sheer overall enjoyment factor, the locker scene at the beginning of Look Who's Stalking. There was no animosity, there was flirting, banter and this sweetness that we rarely saw in season two. While I enjoyed sway, the Epic scene, their final scene and the few make-out scenes they got, this one had actual depth and conversation and just sang.
Favorite Moment - Logan dropping Veronica's bags and then pulling her into his arms, kissing/spinning in Not Pictured. I probably have watched that moment (before they start talking) about a zillion times. Okay maybe not that much, but more than any other bit this season.
Most Romantic Moment - I gotta go back to Veronica taking Logan's hand while he switched his bag to his shoulder when meeting him at summer school in Normal is the Watchword. I know it was a flashback and leading to bad things, but there was such a tender sweetness that I've adored from the first moment I saw it.
Most Unexpected Romantic Moment - As much as I loved the kissing/spinning from NP, while the action was unexpected, you kinda knew something was coming judging by how she looked at him when he showed up, so I'm going to go with the one that completely was unexpected and that would be The Dance in PB. Totally unexpected, totally delicious and totally squeed over!
Most Intense Moment - The rooftop scene when Logan kept telling her she wasn't a killer. 'Nuff said.
Saddest Moment - (Since this pertains to their relationship, I'm not including the NP stuff because that was about Keith and the events happening.) Veronica at the Neptune Grand when Kendall showed up behind Logan in LWS. There were (sadly) many moments to choose from, but it was really easy when it came down to it to choose. Part of that ease came from the fact that this was the only instance where both were sad (for essentially the same reason). The look on both of their faces (especially Veronica's) was just soooo heartbreaking. Have elevator doors closing ever been this sad?! {{Sob}}
Sexiest Moment - Dude, no question: The IAG make-out. That was HOT! I loved this scene so much that I'm willing to let my normal pouty bias slide. When I don't get a lot of making out, I tend to be aggravated when what we do get is shrouded in darkness, has credits over it or some other form of getting in the way of the hot stuff. Well, in this one, the icky S2 filter is in place and their dang heads are cut off through most of the scene (and there's that really bad cut, but that's neither here nor there). However, as I said, I'm able to put aside that bias and just enjoy the scene, even the severed heads bit because it SO works for the scene. The direction and camera cuts do a wonderful job of showing the intense, out of control passion these two share. I loved it.
Most Playful Moment - The high-five in PB. Cute. They had a few others (the "because you're five?" knee dip), but this one I liked because Veronica initiated it IN playfulness, didn't apologize and Logan decided to go along IN playfulness. It was just a fun, peaceful moment between them -- snarking and making light of the suckiness of life.
Most Hopeful Moment - Logan asking her to the alterna-prom in LWS. He was so clearly wanting her to be there, if not with him, just at least be there. The looking down, the desperate trying to hide how much he wanted her there, the yearning look on his face as she walked away ... sigh.
Best Kiss - Not much to choose from here (grrr), so I'll go with the obvious choice: The kiss in the hallway at the end of NP. Sigh. The kissing and the spinning. And seriously, I did watch about it a hundred times the first few days after the episode aired. Seriously, at least a hundred times. This is no lie.
Favorite Line
- Logan: Veronica ... ask not what Logan can do for you, but what you can do for Logan. (PB) Cute, silly, charming, totally, totally Logan, and of all of the presidents to paraphrase he chooses the most infamous womanizer in US history. Ah, Logan. And what makes it even sweeter is that he's off doing his "civic" duty as reward based on an assignment in what appears to be ... wait for it ... an American history class. I love it.
- Veronica: A pony?!?! (It was all in the delivery!) (NP) Seriously, I see the words and automatically grin. I love, love, love, LOVED it!!!
Most Romantic Line
- Logan: What I'm trying to say is I'm in love with you. (NitW) I know it didn't end happily or romantically. I know she didn't respond with anything other than a lame-ass joke, but still ... he said it, he meant it and it was romantic.
- Veronica: I don't want to lose you from my life either. (LWS) It was the first time ALL FRICKIN' SEASON that Veronica acknowledged that Logan held any importance for her. And it was said when she came back to him after running away, the very first time she's ever done that. Yes, again like above, it ended badly, but she said it, she meant it and it was romantic.
Most Angsty Line
- Logan: FYI, if the cuddling is the best part, he didn't do it right. (DE) This was just painful because this was Logan trying to be an ass, trying to show her he didn't care by snarking, but the look in his eyes, the tone of his voice, guh! it just broke my heart. He was in so much pain, but he still loves her so much that he couldn't even lash out properly. Poor woobie Logan.
- Veronica: A gun, Logan! A gun! What are you doing with a gun!? You're going to get yourself killed, don't you understand that? (AM) And here's the flip of the coin. Above I felt for woobie Logan who said the words. Here, I feel for woobie Logan hearing the words. Honestly, this line would be on here for different reasons had Kristen Bell done with an-as-written-cruel line what Jason Dohring did, which is imbue her emotional heart in it. Show that beneath the words, Veronica was suffering as much as Logan. Instead, all I got was a bitchy Veronica who didn't even have the common decency to thank him for saving her life. I can see where it should have been about Veronica's fear for his life, but I didn't read that in KB's performance. I read fear for Veronica's life and disgusted hatred for Logan. And that's why it breaks my heart ... in a bad way, unlike the good way above. Had KB delivered the line as Rob Thomas intended (he described the scene's subtext in an interview), this might still be on here as the angsty line, but it would be in the good way. Alas, it's not.
Best Look Exchanged Overall
- Logan: The look on his face as the window is rolling up in the makeout flashback in IAG right as he says, "Hi." So sweet. Sigh.
- Veronica: When Logan showed up at the end of NP, she shot him a look of such beaming love. Sigh.
Oh, and since this is a picspam (with me going just a leetle overboard), not safe for dial-up.