Great recap as always. It made me realize and overthink some things I hadn't previously noted, especially in those Stefan-scenes. The lack of the hospitalscene bugged me too, especially as such a severe injury would have called for some surgery that would have taken a couple of hours -which didn't fit with the timeframe- and would have in addition required him to stay at the hospital for at least a the night if not a couple of days. So at first (before Damon's hospital-speech) I thought Stefan hadn't been to the hospital at all and Caroline wanted to heal him with antibiotics alone and I was WTF? Because that wound looked pretty much like the one he received from Caroline some eps ago that had killed him! Once we found out that he acctually received some medical treatment in the hospital I still had some problems with the lack of time that has passed. But well after last ep's realtor debacle I've lowered my expectations. Also concerning Caroline just walking into the interrogation and than blabbing on and on while there were clearly
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Re: your issues with the Stefan story, I actually don't think they track. Stefan was stabbed by a very weak woman (even if she managed to put some oomph in it). If no major organs were hit (and that's certainly possible), all that likely would have been required was a stitching, pints of blood to make up for his loss, and pump him full of some pain killers. With the Cade (and Bonnie) situation, Caroline and Stefan both would have felt they needed to get back to Mystic Falls. Therefore, once those medically-necessary things were done, she would have gotten extra supplies (as she mentioned) and just compelled everyone to let them walk out of there
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On a more positive note I really liked Matt in this ep.
Me too! It was great having that feeling about him again.
It seems like it though with the flashbacks and all.
Ooh, you got that impression too? Yay!
I hope that they won't rush it now though.
I think if it does happen, we'll just get a hint of it... but nothing really in your face. And then we may get a flashforward a few years in the final episode where we'll see them together. Unless, Enzo does come back, then yeah, no Matt and Bonnie. :(
I don't think Bea was pregnant and even if so, as far as I understood it she died in the vault didn't she? I mean she imprisoned the sirens and than for safety measures closed the door to the vault with magic so it couldn't be opened again. So I think she sacrificed herself to prevent the sirens from escaping from the vault again.No, she created the spell that kept the Sirens in that blocked out part of the cave (that needed no sound or sight to get through). And then when Ethan tried to kill her, she locked him in that room. She wasn
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I would have liked to see how Stefan woke up, his transition back to being human, his confusion etc. Something like the scene in Blood Brothers, only backwards. But I guess we just didn't have time for that.
I didn't even think of that because I imagine he just would have been in shock. And being a vampire, you have to feed, start losing it, get the hunger, etc. With being a human, none of that would happen. All there would be is, well, shock. And we saw him in shock.
Damon can be so empathetic, first with Bonnie, later with Stefan, I love it when we get glimpses of him showing he cares so deeply.
*sigh* I know!! ♥ ♥ My Damon!
My friend commented that when Stefan asked about redemption, Damon was about to shake his head, but for the sake of his little brother he said "absolutely". I hadnt caught it, but I'm still not convinced either that he believes in redemption himself.
Oh, yeah, he was totally lying all the way!
I was surprised Enzo didn't come back right away. But I'm glad. Made his death more powerful.Agreed... and I know
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I've known it, of course, but slowly it really starts to hit me - only four more episodes to go? Man, I can't even imagine that. TVD has been an important part of my life for so many years now, with all the emotional ups and downs ... how am I going to live without it? Yes, I know, it's only TV. But still. Will there ever be another series like that?
I've known it, of course, but slowly it really starts to hit me - only four more episodes to go?
I have to admit that despite my opening text, it actually hasn't hit me yet.
TVD has been an important part of my life for so many years now, with all the emotional ups and downs ... how am I going to live without it? Yes, I know, it's only TV. But still.Oh, I hear you... I so hear you. I have a bunch of fandom-related things I'm working on. Going through all of the write-ups, redoing a good handful of them, going through comments and adding them to my write-ups and I'm actually going to try and package them together per season as an ebook on Amazon to make a bit o' cash on (LOL!) Plus, I have these things I do call "Bloodstream Entries" where I pretty much am consolidating EVERYTHING fandom-wise I've done (central character, write-ups, icons, etc.) for each episode. So TVD will not be gone from my life even after the show ends. Until I find another couple to obsess over--because it will be a couple that rips my attention away, a great
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Hi! I had a chance to (finally) catch up on these last couple of episodes so I wanted to drop you a quick message before the new episode airs tonight.
(also, congrats on the new job!)
I agree that this episode was so wonderful!
I've made no secret of my lack of affection for Bonnie and Enzo, but I really felt for her and her lost love in this one. (I know! I'm kinda shocked myself.) I think it's because of the script by Chad Fiveashe and James Stoteraux (by the way, they've had more really great episodes now than not as great, so they are officially A-OK in my book). There were no protestations of Bonnie and Enzo's deep, eternal, forever love being the most loved love that ever loved. There was no allegorical rending of clothing. In other words, Bonnie's pain felt real, not some hyper-fantasy of what the most grieving grief that had ever grieved.I think Matt comparing her loss to his helped in this regard, too -- the show comparing Bonnie and Enzo to Matt and... oh, man, I've forgotten her name, but the cop girlfriend... grounds
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Hi! I had a chance to (finally) catch up on these last couple of episodes so I wanted to drop you a quick message before the new episode airs tonight.
HEY!
(also, congrats on the new job!)
Thank you! :)
I think Matt comparing her loss to his helped in this regard, too -- the show comparing Bonnie and Enzo to Matt and... oh, man, I've forgotten her name, but the cop girlfriend... grounds it more in realism, too, at least for me, because Matt and Cop Girlfriend weren't (to my memory) sold as the Greatest Love That Ever Loved but just as a more regular, mundane love that was still horrifically painful for Matt to lose because losing someone you love is always horrifically painful.
Penny. :) That's a really good point.
ETA: It occurs to me that Matt might instead have been talking about losing Vicki in that scene! Since she's been on his mind. But that also helps, too, because again, it grounds Bonnie's loss against another loss that was treated significantly but 'normally' by the show.Nah, he was definitely talking about Penny.
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Me too! It was great having that feeling about him again.
It seems like it though with the flashbacks and all.
Ooh, you got that impression too? Yay!
I hope that they won't rush it now though.
I think if it does happen, we'll just get a hint of it... but nothing really in your face. And then we may get a flashforward a few years in the final episode where we'll see them together. Unless, Enzo does come back, then yeah, no Matt and Bonnie. :(
I don't think Bea was pregnant and even if so, as far as I understood it she died in the vault didn't she? I mean she imprisoned the sirens and than for safety measures closed the door to the vault with magic so it couldn't be opened again. So I think she sacrificed herself to prevent the sirens from escaping from the vault again.No, she created the spell that kept the Sirens in that blocked out part of the cave (that needed no sound or sight to get through). And then when Ethan tried to kill her, she locked him in that room. She wasn ( ... )
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I would have liked to see how Stefan woke up, his transition back to being human, his confusion etc. Something like the scene in Blood Brothers, only backwards. But I guess we just didn't have time for that.
I didn't even think of that because I imagine he just would have been in shock. And being a vampire, you have to feed, start losing it, get the hunger, etc. With being a human, none of that would happen. All there would be is, well, shock. And we saw him in shock.
Damon can be so empathetic, first with Bonnie, later with Stefan, I love it when we get glimpses of him showing he cares so deeply.
*sigh* I know!! ♥ ♥ My Damon!
My friend commented that when Stefan asked about redemption, Damon was about to shake his head, but for the sake of his little brother he said "absolutely". I hadnt caught it, but I'm still not convinced either that he believes in redemption himself.
Oh, yeah, he was totally lying all the way!
I was surprised Enzo didn't come back right away. But I'm glad. Made his death more powerful.Agreed... and I know ( ... )
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I have to admit that despite my opening text, it actually hasn't hit me yet.
TVD has been an important part of my life for so many years now, with all the emotional ups and downs ... how am I going to live without it? Yes, I know, it's only TV. But still.Oh, I hear you... I so hear you. I have a bunch of fandom-related things I'm working on. Going through all of the write-ups, redoing a good handful of them, going through comments and adding them to my write-ups and I'm actually going to try and package them together per season as an ebook on Amazon to make a bit o' cash on (LOL!) Plus, I have these things I do call "Bloodstream Entries" where I pretty much am consolidating EVERYTHING fandom-wise I've done (central character, write-ups, icons, etc.) for each episode. So TVD will not be gone from my life even after the show ends. Until I find another couple to obsess over--because it will be a couple that rips my attention away, a great ( ... )
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(also, congrats on the new job!)
I agree that this episode was so wonderful!
I've made no secret of my lack of affection for Bonnie and Enzo, but I really felt for her and her lost love in this one. (I know! I'm kinda shocked myself.) I think it's because of the script by Chad Fiveashe and James Stoteraux (by the way, they've had more really great episodes now than not as great, so they are officially A-OK in my book). There were no protestations of Bonnie and Enzo's deep, eternal, forever love being the most loved love that ever loved. There was no allegorical rending of clothing. In other words, Bonnie's pain felt real, not some hyper-fantasy of what the most grieving grief that had ever grieved.I think Matt comparing her loss to his helped in this regard, too -- the show comparing Bonnie and Enzo to Matt and... oh, man, I've forgotten her name, but the cop girlfriend... grounds ( ... )
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HEY!
(also, congrats on the new job!)
Thank you! :)
I think Matt comparing her loss to his helped in this regard, too -- the show comparing Bonnie and Enzo to Matt and... oh, man, I've forgotten her name, but the cop girlfriend... grounds it more in realism, too, at least for me, because Matt and Cop Girlfriend weren't (to my memory) sold as the Greatest Love That Ever Loved but just as a more regular, mundane love that was still horrifically painful for Matt to lose because losing someone you love is always horrifically painful.
Penny. :) That's a really good point.
ETA: It occurs to me that Matt might instead have been talking about losing Vicki in that scene! Since she's been on his mind. But that also helps, too, because again, it grounds Bonnie's loss against another loss that was treated significantly but 'normally' by the show.Nah, he was definitely talking about Penny. ( ... )
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