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tj2013 December 30 2016, 21:42:22 UTC
Your write-up let me re-live the whole episode again (not that I haven't watched that particular episode more than a hundred times, LOL).
One more thing I absolutely adore is the quiet "m-hmmm" Damon makes at the bar after Elena asks him whether any of this is real. We have often talked about Ian Somerhalder's fantastic delivery of lines, this little moment was one of them.

Yes, the key-word of the episode is "real". Actually it might apply to the whole series.

Thanks for putting up your posts so quickly. I'm having a blast reading them. Season 1 is coming to life again.

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arabian December 31 2016, 17:27:50 UTC
Aww, I'm glad I could do that for you. It's crazy when I pulled up my notes, I only had one thing jotted down for Damon and Elena. I thought WTF?! So, I went back and rewatched all of their scenes. I'm glad I did that because it gave me so much more to work with.

absolutely adore is the quiet "m-hmmm" Damon makes at the bar after Elena asks him whether any of this is real. We have often talked about Ian Somerhalder's fantastic delivery of lines, this little moment was one of them.

It didn't particularly strike me (thus my not mentioning it), but as soon as I read what you wrote, I certainly heard it in my head! So, yeah, memorable enough.

Yes, the key-word of the episode is "real". Actually it might apply to the whole series. I don't think the whole series, but rather the Damon/Elena relationship. I know that I reference this 'real' quite a bit in later write-ups. I also know it comes up in 1.14 and just continues to hit with these two, particularly in 5.18 when it was made explicitly clear that Stefan and Elena are a fantasy, but ( ... )

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Re: 1.11 arabian May 4 2017, 02:29:56 UTC
You know what I find especially puzzling about this? Puzzling and off-putting, I guess. Not just the fact that he was stalking her, but the timing. He started stalking her right after her parents died, when she was grieving the hardest, probably crying a lot and generally being at her most vulnerable. It feels wrong and off-putting, because it's more than just stalking, it's invading someone's privacy on a deeper emotional level. As for the puzzling aspect of it, how someone so sensitive and empathetic as Stefan could stand watching Elena suffer without feeling the unyielding need to introduce himself earlier, try making her smile? I don't remember the exact wording, but I think this was the episode when Stefan said that he had to spend all that time watching Elena because... he "had to make sure" that she was not Katherine. It will never not sound weird to me. So, basically, he didn't really want to get to know Elena Gilbert. He wanted to get to know a better version of Katherine. If, by any chance, Elena would've exhibited some less ( ... )

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Re: 1.11 arabian May 14 2017, 14:26:30 UTC
RE: Stefan/Elena shippers, I just honestly think it's a case of people not really looking too deeply at the actuality of what is the foundation of their story ( ... )

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ext_4121835 May 11 2017, 15:07:13 UTC
From this point on in the series Stefan has no purpose.

This is easily my favorite episode of season 1 and a top one out of the series as a whole.

I've always, well if by always I mean since my second overall watch and first non-bingey watch, that Damon and Elena were always the OTP. I mean come on Bonnie's vision in the pilot is a clear reference to the Damon and Elena relationship that is to come.

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arabian May 14 2017, 14:27:58 UTC
I disagree so completely about Stefan there are no words, but clearly, well, we disagree.

Eh, I like Damon and Elena's roadtrip, but this one has always been just a so-so episode for me overall.

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ext_4121835 May 11 2017, 15:12:38 UTC
"he does genuinely want to be a good guy. His selfish wants and desires just happen to take precedence over that at times. But, he is a decent guy (and a better man than Damon"

That is one of the funniest things I've ever read, Stefan a better man than Damon, lol.

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arabian May 14 2017, 14:29:10 UTC
But Stefan is. He genuinely wants to do good, that is the measure of a good man. Damon only cares about himself and those he loves. He doesn't care about doing good (that comes later). Empirically speaking, it's a fact.

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