Comments | arabian: 3.01 - 'The Birthday' - Take Two (The Vampire Diaries)

arabian

3.01 - 'The Birthday' - Take Two (The Vampire Diaries)

Sep 18, 2011 15:59

So rewatched the premiere and I haz thoughts! (If you missed my post based on my first-run through, you can find it here. FYI: There were some fabulous comments from my flist in the thread.)

( I SWEAR this will not be as long! )

ep discussion-tvd, damon salvatore, stefan salvatore, tv, the vampire diaries, elena gilbert, elijah mikaelson, caroline forbes, daniel gillies, alaric saltzman, damon/elena

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distant_autumn September 20 2011, 21:11:50 UTC

I'm glad the end scene worked better for you this time!

Is this his chance to make up for the HORRIBLE way he reacted to her kidnapping and torture last season?

I'm assuming so. It's his opportunity to step up, and I think/hope that he will. He better. I mean, I really like Tyler and am on board with C/T (you know, until the inevitable transition to C/S in a couple of season's time ;) But if he lets her down AGAIN...

They had all summer, hanging out, but neither was moved to make it anything beyond friends even though they both supposedly wanted it? And then when they got together it was based (as it came across) purely on lust and sexual drive. To compound that, Caroline crept out of the room like she was ashamed. I mean, girl was totally doing the walk of shame before Carol caught her.IDK, I think he's still in that place from last year of having fallen from her, only she said no back then and now there are all these conflicting signals coming from her. But she really is his friend, his best one at this point, so it ( ... )

Part 2 distant_autumn September 20 2011, 21:14:14 UTC

Elena truly does not know Stefan. Not really. Why? Because he's never shown her his real self. If he wasn't lying to her (flat-out or by omission), he was white-washing who he is, his actions, his past, his misdeeds because he's ashamed of his dark past, that part of him. And so Elena has mostly only seen the version of Stefan that he wants to be, that he wants to present. The very few times that she saw a different side to him, that darker side, she denied the reality of it, insistent that it wasn't really Stefan. But it is. It's a part of him, as much as the caring, good guy is, this dark Stefan is Stefan too.

Quoted for truth. Seriously, every damn word of this is so, SO spot on. And it's both of their faults; him for withholding so damn much and not trusting in her or the strength of their relationship enough to tell her the whole truth, and Elena for being willing to (wanting to) believe the lie.

Elena is now eighteen. She is now OLDER than Stefan in terms of living life (as opposed to undead life). There was a big 'Elena ( ... )

*Facepalm* Part 3. distant_autumn September 20 2011, 21:18:15 UTC

subconsciously she wants to be near him, she wants to touch him, she wants him to touch her, she ... wants him. Yet, she's completely convinced herself that such is not the case.

I honestly don't believe she's even aware of what she is doing. She's following her body, her heart's desire to be with him without thought; she's just doing because it feels right. She is completely blind to the fact that her body and her heart are not in agreement with her mind in this, therefore, she's not doing anything "wrong" because it's not really happening. Even though it is.

This, 100% (and so, so fantastically put ♥!) I honestly don't understand people thinking she's doing it deliberately. She's just NOT. She's in deep denial about it and what she can't bring herself to acknowledge is nevertheless spilling out all over the place in her actions. Also adored everything you said about the necklace scene! ♥ ♥ ♥

I think he was doing his best to keep the Andie situation from being a part of Elena's concern. [...] He didn't tell her he was ( ... )

Re: *Facepalm* Part 3. arabian September 22 2011, 21:30:22 UTC

This, 100% (and so, so fantastically put ♥!)

Thank you; I was pleased with how that came out. I was trying to get across the tension of it with my words.

I honestly don't understand people thinking she's doing it deliberately. She's just NOT. She's in deep denial about it and what she can't bring herself to acknowledge is nevertheless spilling out all over the place in her actions. Also adored everything you said about the necklace scene! ♥ ♥ ♥

Thank you, and yes, this, this, this, this, 1000% this!

Mmm, because even before Andie, he had Rose. He went from making that conscious decision re: Elena at the end of 2.08, to hooking up with Rose in 2.09, then the episode after her death he got involved with Andie and that has lasted up until now. So, yes. This is going to be the first time since way back then that he hasn't had anyone distracting him.I'm hoping it means we get some really, really gooooooooooood tension. Of course, there's always the rumor that Katherine will come back into play. And you know me, if Damon's going to ( ... )

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