On research credentials, again.

Nov 29, 2011 00:20

I'm going to be finishing my B.A. in History (among other things) this Spring. At my university, all history majors don't complete a thesis, but instead complete two capstone research seminars culminating in a 20+ page paper each as well as a core research methods class with a similarly hefty research component. (Faculty have told me that they ( Read more... )

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roseofjuly November 29 2011, 06:11:04 UTC
If you have a research experience section, then yes, I'd put it on my undergraduate CV. I would present it as if it were an independent study project; it essentially is, just done under the auspices of a formal requirement.

You can definitely talk about it in your personal statement to emphasize the rigorous nature of it.

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coaldustcanary November 29 2011, 07:09:32 UTC
My just-out-of-BA CV did not have a "research experience" section. I'm not even sure what that means beyond the normal obligations of coursework. I completed several research papers in the 20+ page range as a part of my standard coursework (1 or 2 each year from sophomore year onwards, the rest of my in-major classes mostly required extensive literature reviews instead). This was never mentioned anywhere on my CV, because, AFAIK, even for an undergrad, a CV should only include published work and conference-presented work (or forthcoming publications/presentations), not "long, really good research papers I wrote for class", even as an undergrad.

I did mention one or two of these papers in my personal statement when I applied to Master's programs, however.

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soviette_kitsch November 29 2011, 08:10:35 UTC
Yeah. I'm having a hard time finding a comfortable position between "having a modest CV because if you don't at this level you are probably full of yourself" and "showing that I have done a lot of research." I will be presenting at a conference, but it's specifically an undergraduate conference. Honestly, I just think it looks kind of foolish listed on its own. A lot of people recommend talking about coursework on your CV, but I also think that's kind of ridiculous-looking. Almost everyone I've talked to said that you're expected to put your honors/senior thesis on your CV, if you have one. I'm sure that's not a bad idea, I'm just trying to figure out a way to demonstrate that this work was more along those lines than just a really long paper I wrote ( ... )

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coaldustcanary November 29 2011, 09:25:29 UTC
Honestly, I tend to side-eye the people who put their undergrad honors thesis on their CVs, too, though I have seen it quite frequently. The reason is that the quality and tenor of an undergrad honors thesis varies a lot more than a Master's thesis, in my experience. I know people who have produced an undergrad thesis in the range of 75 pages of incredible research and IRB-approved experiment analysis, and I know people who have produced an undergrad thesis which was essentially a glorified pet-project essay with a page length south of 20 with a few citations thrown in. Prove that you can do research not by listing a research project but by sending a competent writing sample along that shows your chops. That's what they'll care about, not a line on a CV.

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brittdreams November 29 2011, 15:30:07 UTC
I disagree with this. It's impossible to send in an entire thesis generally, so you need to note to the adcomm in some way that what you're sending is part of a larger project. One line on a CV at this stage, and that is removed once the person is in graduate school, is not a problem.

OP, I would list the capstone course papers since they're generally done in more detail and with more supervision than an undergraduate class paper. I had a similar thing when I applied to grad school and listed it. No one looked askance at it since I was demonstrating to them that I could come up with an idea, conduct research, and make an argument and that I had experience doing so. That said, those lines came off my CV pretty quickly.

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