Religion or Politics?

[aphar]

What is the difference between a religious denomination and a political party?

Both start from a certain ideology (political or religious) - a world view which defines "Right" and "Wrong", and then proceed to delineate an appropriate behavior.

One might think that religions are grandfathered - they existed before the democratic process while

Comments

[zapiens]

Religious beliefs are (by definition) no verifiable (cf. Thomas Aquinas); political ideologies may be, at least in principle, be subject to empirical tests.

[aphar]

Thanks for your comment.

I think a political ideology primarily concerns with normative rather than positive issues, and thus is closer to religion than science.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_statement)

[zapiens]

Good point about normative vs. positive statements as a basis for political ideology. That said, normative statements underlying an ideology should (in theory) be translated into laws/policies/procedures, the results of applying which (again, in theory) may be compared to the status quo.

If the thesis is that politics and religion are different in theory but can be similar in practice, I agree.

[aphar]

Confirmation bias infects everyone.
They all reject inconvenient science.

[ymarkov]

В плане срачей и холиваров - никакого.

[aphar]

А в каком плане есть разница?

[ymarkov]

Хмм... Ну, скажем так: политика призвана решать рукотворные проблемы.

[aphar]

неее...
ты мне снажи - почему католицизм и ислам - религии, а марксизм и консерватизм - политические течения?

[yyi]

My imho: political ideology typically aims to rule everyone in a given social setting, incl., those who hold to other ideologies. religious ideology does not always do that. of course, some religions - most notably, Islam - actually incorporate political aspect organically. Islam was essentially created as an imperialist movement - as is evidenced by its militaristic expansion from the start, as well as the ideology dividing the world into the two halves - one that is already absorbed (dar-el-islam, literally the world of islam, which also interestingly means the world of submission) and the one that is still "in the works" (dar-el-harb, which literally means the world of sword - i.e., the world of the war