'Freud viewed homosexuality as an instance of a narcissistic form of object choice, in which people fall in love with an idealized version of themselves projected onto another person
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and yes it applies to heterosexuality as well because you're sorta attracted to people who have qualities you admire, perhaps aspire to. so yes for me freud's sorta mixed up. it's understandable though given his time period.
i feel obliged to say something coz i'm a psych majorswitchicoSeptember 7 2007, 10:17:53 UTC
A lot of the other more famous psychologists actually disagree with Freud and I think in this case I'm going to side with them. Right now I can think of one argument against his view on homosexuality.
Most trangenders are homosexuals for the basic reason that they are attracted to men. However, their idealized version of themselves would be a female not a male. So if homosexuality is a narcissistic form of object choice, why do these people want to be with men and not women? One can argue though that transgenders see themselves as women inside a man's body and actually there are those who don't consider themselves as homosexuals for this very reason. Even then, homosexuality in essence is being attracted to the same gender whatever your gender identity is.
I know this argument is petty at best but it's the one i came up with hehehe...
and mike's right.. theories on liking and attraction state almost the same thing..
Freud's the most famous in the field, just to correct you. most lay people know only know freud rather than piaget or erikson.. all crap! so there are no more famous psychologists. though yes.. i think majority of psychologists/psychiatrists/psychoanalysts would disagree with freud.
and i sort of disagree with your generalization that the idealized version of homosexuals is female. in fact, most homosexuals are comfortably male, i.e. they dress talk and do everything as a guy, except that they are attracted to guys as well. second the whole 'i'm a woman in a man's body' does not change the fact that they possess a man's body, and perhaps see an idealized version of themselves subconsciously or consciously.
i think the best argument against this would be theories on attraction, like you supported with your last line.:P
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i just like a warm body to get jiggy with it beneath the sheets and a nice person to talk to afterwards. and syempre before, and during. hehe
oh my. haha but really. :)
....but isn't that perspective applicable to heterosexuality as well?
I dunno. :| (blank stare)
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and yes it applies to heterosexuality as well because you're sorta attracted to people who have qualities you admire, perhaps aspire to.
so yes for me freud's sorta mixed up. it's understandable though given his time period.
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intriguing.
well, thats for him.
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Most trangenders are homosexuals for the basic reason that they are attracted to men. However, their idealized version of themselves would be a female not a male. So if homosexuality is a narcissistic form of object choice, why do these people want to be with men and not women? One can argue though that transgenders see themselves as women inside a man's body and actually there are those who don't consider themselves as homosexuals for this very reason. Even then, homosexuality in essence is being attracted to the same gender whatever your gender identity is.
I know this argument is petty at best but it's the one i came up with hehehe...
and mike's right.. theories on liking and attraction state almost the same thing..
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and i sort of disagree with your generalization that the idealized version of homosexuals is female. in fact, most homosexuals are comfortably male, i.e. they dress talk and do everything as a guy, except that they are attracted to guys as well. second the whole 'i'm a woman in a man's body' does not change the fact that they possess a man's body, and perhaps see an idealized version of themselves subconsciously or consciously.
i think the best argument against this would be theories on attraction, like you supported with your last line.:P
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