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eglantine_br January 10 2013, 01:12:50 UTC
He sounds like a prickly old guy. But loyal to those he liked, and that is something.

And maybe he was just cranky because his feet hurt?

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vespican January 11 2013, 00:58:09 UTC
Sore feet can indeed make one cranky! Just ask me!
Dave

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anteros_lmc January 11 2013, 21:28:44 UTC
Aye but there's cranky and cranky!

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mylodon January 10 2013, 08:54:20 UTC
If any of us had two minutes to rub together and call our own, what a fic that would make, the two old geezers meeting at the crossroads.

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anteros_lmc January 11 2013, 21:29:42 UTC
Heh, can you imagine it? The pair of them stuck together for eternity in the middle of Glasgow!

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esmerelda_t January 10 2013, 17:40:01 UTC
If he hated us why do we have a street named after him? That settles it! I must return if for no other reason than to lobby for a name change! Bartholomew street has a nice ring to it.

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anteros_lmc January 11 2013, 21:33:11 UTC
Bartholomew Street sounds splendid. I will petition the council immediately!

There are so many streets in the centre commemorating the Napoleonic wars (Wellington, Waterloo, Dundas, St VIncent, Cochrane, Cadogan) I wonder if they were all named in one go or if they were re-named over a number of years?

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vespican January 11 2013, 00:56:43 UTC
If we had been more on the ball, a day or two ago we could have celebrated (commiserated?) the fictional near-sinking of Lord Nelson's funeral barge!

Anyway, if I remember Hornblower and the Atropos correctly, St. Vincent was First Lord at the time of Nelson's funeral... according to Forester anyway. Wasn't he the one HH and Bracegirdle had to ask for permission so Horatio could retrieve his watch? What little research I've done shows otherwise, but...

Dave

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anteros_lmc January 11 2013, 21:43:34 UTC
I remembered about the funeral but I posted the barge scene from Atropos last year so I thought I'd give Old Jervie a spot in the lime light this year! XD

You're absolutely right. St VIncent is indeed the one who allows Hornblower to retrieve his watch and who later introduces him to the king.

Barham was First Lord at the time of Nelson's funeral but he was replaced by the Hon Charles Grey in February 1806. St Vincent held the position from Feb 1801 to May 1804 when he was replaced by Dundas.

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vespican January 12 2013, 17:15:14 UTC
Most everything I've seen about First Lords' time of service only gives the year... hard to know exactly when one ended and another began. Maybe in the CSF universe, St. Vincent filled in for a couple of months, beginning in January '06.
Dave

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anteros_lmc January 17 2013, 21:48:51 UTC
NAM Rodger's Command of the Ocean gives the exact dates for all the First Lords from Prince Rupert (!) in 1673 to Robert Dundas, 2nd Viscount Melville in 1812. I'm not a huge fan of Rodger but he is a good source for these kind of references.

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