Moffat stated explicitly in the first Confidential that the Doctor, not a clone, was killed there. That seems to strongly imply that it was not a Ganger, though he couldn't use that term at that point without spoiling us.
I've got a feeling at this point that the original Doctor is going to die and a ganger is going to step in to fill his place, and we, the audience, are supposed to accept this after watching these episodes about how gangers are the same as the original and you can't tell the difference, etc. etc.
Or else he'll pull a mind game where we aren't sure if it's the Doctor or the ganger and "does it really matter?" I remember Big Finish doing the same thing a few times.
I'm really hoping they don't go there though. Really, REALLY hoping.
Yeah - loved the fact that the Doctor's switched shoes - presumably whilst doing their pop up routine behind that machine - and now Amy has told non-ganger Doctor about seeing him die. Nice!
Managed to figure out that Amy wasn't real - the clothes were a huge thing. She kept wearing that same shirt, episode after episode.
Now, the Doctor says that Amy hasn't been there for a "very, very long time". How long? LOL I assumed initially that the Amy they got back after being kidnapped in "Day of the Moon" was fake Amy - because the Silence use other people's tech. Maybe it's been longer? I don't know.
The trailer for next week is fantastic - but honestly... TWO Matt Smiths? Blimey, I damn near imploded from the happy...
Hehee well this season she's been wearing it from "Impossible Astronaut". And each episode since - sometimes under jackets etc but it's ALWAYS there. Hell, even the Doctor changes his bowtie.
And I'm planning a rewatch starting today. I think we ALL are!
However - I think there's more stuff in season 5 to link in too. Did you notice in the trailer for next week that the same symbol is in the background when the soldier is speaking as when in "Time of the Angels" Amy was trying to get out of that ship (it was the symbol on the airlock).
It's very exciting, intriguing - and Matt is just a sexy beast.
I think the shirt is a red herring. Mostly because while she wore the same shirt, the bottom part of her outfit changed from episode to episode. Sometimes she had a skirt, sometimes pants. Also, she was wearing the black suit when the Silence kidnapped her. If she was replaced then, she'd be wearing that black suit all the time.
I think she was switched sometime during the 3 months she, Rory and River were traveling through America, counting the Silence. It just makes the most sense. (to me) She told him she was pregnant in IA and then in DotM she 'wasn't'. That's also when she saw the eyepatch! woman for the first time.
I think Amy was switched somewhere between Impossible Astronaut and Day of Moon. She saw eyepatch!woman before she went into the room where she was kidnapped by the Silence, which says to me she was Ganger then.
I was totally with you that this was going to be as disappointing as the Silurian 2 parter. The ex-roommate came over and we rewatched TRF because she needed some explanation, then went straight into TAP. I was all slouched in my chair after the 2 people went into the press conference, thinking, "That's all well and good, but what was the point?" and then I realized. I sat up and shouted "OMG! Amy's Flesh!" which just made the eps so much better.
when was she switched?misswitchMay 29 2011, 16:12:48 UTC
In the confidential the image they show behind the phrase "a long time" (that she's been flesh) is Amy and Rory getting out of the bus to meet the Doctor in the desert
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I noticed she was wearing the same shirt, too, but I thought maybe it didn't mean anything so I discounted the significance of it. Now I'm going to have to rethink
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i rewatched some snatches and I'm not convinced it's the same shirt. She just always wears a tartan (presumably because she's scots), when they're playing darts you can see another one draped over the back of a chair by the console. The first one's a dark huntery thing, but most of them are mostly red and white.
I'm thinking there's this one Silent on the side of the angels. He's definitely trying to help them, even though he's a killjoy. Shows up at the funeral and the bathroom. He tells her to tell the doctor what he must know AND what he must never know. Pregnant, & Dead? She's done both now.
Yeah the bit about pregnancy was weird, like she was struggling to talk around a mental block. So I think she was flesh then and back in the oval office, which means since before the season started. Or before the previous season started. She was always a weird little girl. She woke up, and it was all a dream.
I think you're right about the Silent in the bathroom being on their side. They couldn't have figured anything out without it. I hope this next episode answers some questions about the little girl, too. I know we assume the little girl is Amy's baby, but why would a human child be both really strong and able to regenerate? Can't wait for this new episode. Although, I have a feeling this next cliffhanger is going to be even worse!
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Or else he'll pull a mind game where we aren't sure if it's the Doctor or the ganger and "does it really matter?" I remember Big Finish doing the same thing a few times.
I'm really hoping they don't go there though. Really, REALLY hoping.
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Managed to figure out that Amy wasn't real - the clothes were a huge thing. She kept wearing that same shirt, episode after episode.
Now, the Doctor says that Amy hasn't been there for a "very, very long time". How long? LOL I assumed initially that the Amy they got back after being kidnapped in "Day of the Moon" was fake Amy - because the Silence use other people's tech. Maybe it's been longer? I don't know.
The trailer for next week is fantastic - but honestly... TWO Matt Smiths? Blimey, I damn near imploded from the happy...
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Matt Smith was awesome in this one. Just great. Been enjoying this series (pirate episode aside) down to the ground.
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And I'm planning a rewatch starting today. I think we ALL are!
However - I think there's more stuff in season 5 to link in too. Did you notice in the trailer for next week that the same symbol is in the background when the soldier is speaking as when in "Time of the Angels" Amy was trying to get out of that ship (it was the symbol on the airlock).
It's very exciting, intriguing - and Matt is just a sexy beast.
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I think she was switched sometime during the 3 months she, Rory and River were traveling through America, counting the Silence. It just makes the most sense. (to me) She told him she was pregnant in IA and then in DotM she 'wasn't'. That's also when she saw the eyepatch! woman for the first time.
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I was totally with you that this was going to be as disappointing as the Silurian 2 parter. The ex-roommate came over and we rewatched TRF because she needed some explanation, then went straight into TAP. I was all slouched in my chair after the 2 people went into the press conference, thinking, "That's all well and good, but what was the point?" and then I realized. I sat up and shouted "OMG! Amy's Flesh!" which just made the eps so much better.
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I'm thinking there's this one Silent on the side of the angels. He's definitely trying to help them, even though he's a killjoy. Shows up at the funeral and the bathroom. He tells her to tell the doctor what he must know AND what he must never know. Pregnant, & Dead? She's done both now.
Yeah the bit about pregnancy was weird, like she was struggling to talk around a mental block. So I think she was flesh then and back in the oval office, which means since before the season started. Or before the previous season started. She was always a weird little girl. She woke up, and it was all a dream.
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