I think Rory is dead for good, but Amy will eventually remember him. This is what I hope for, at least.
I hadn't thought to wonder if the Doctor can't remember him after all. I guess there isn't much direct evidence, except Matt Smith's performance at the end of the episode. The Doctor is clearly gutted, probably far more than he ever expected to be.
I don't think we get any unambiguous clues about the Doctor's memory afterward. It's easily resolved, though, and I'm sure we'll be told soon enough. I thought it was interesting that Mr P & I assumed that of course he remembered, but I saw discussion online wondering if he did or not. I should rewatch this one.
I liked Rory but I hope he's dead for good - we had enough bloody resets during RTD's time on the show, thank you very much. LOL. Let's see if the new series has the balls the classic series did when it killed off Adric.
I liked this two parter even though it was sort of "by the numbers". In fact, I've liked the whole season and I never thought I would.
I think there's more to Amy than just this memory business. Even from the start you had to wonder what "aunt" would go out late at night and leave a 7 year old on their own like that. Is she something to do with this Pandorical thingie herself? This "crack" seems to be wherever she is - or wherever the Doctor is...so I guess that could be linked.
I just don't want a reset. I don't want an RTD-style "it never happened" crappy kind of ending.
I'm just plain confused. They leave Tardis, see Rory and Amy on hill in distance waving. So Rory and Amy are alive at that moment and, supposedly, living near the mine?
Then their adventures underground mean Rory is dead and so he is also dead in his "other life" because only Amy is now waving when they leave.
But that Rory wasn't the Rory who died! You can't treat one character in one way - Rory dying and vanishing - and Amy 'going off in Tardis but apparently still living in village' in another.
Or am I missing something.
And I personally think everything this series is played out on the 'wrong' side of the crack. The real side is the glowy one.
Yes! This is one of our complaints about the erasure: it seems to have *no consequences* other than the person forgetting about the erasure victim. The soldiers in Flesh & Stone get eaten, but are not replaced by *other* soldiers who would surely have been there if those other people had never existed. Amy's life will surely be different without Rory, with different choices made, but we are supposed to believe that she'd end up on that hill waving anyway.
So I agree, either there's something we don't yet know that makes it all consistent, or we're not understanding the rules yet (Mr P's complaint) or it's sloppy writing (I don't yet want to believe that, though I would certainly already have believed it were RTD still in charge). I like your alternative explanation: the other side of the crack is real.
I thought at first that we'd be seeing a short time hop happening in this episode. The Rory & Amy waving from the hill were a hint about how the puzzle of the week would be resolved. Ha. No.
I am firmly convinced that Rory will be back. The explosion that caused the crack happens on what is supposed to be Amy's wedding day and it all seems to revolve around her.
Regardless of what happens with Rory, Moffet has me fascinated with where this season is going.
I hope that Rory isn't dead, but I would hope Moffatt does have the guts to keep him dead. I am utterly fascinated by this series. I am really looking forward to having everything figured out by the Doctor.
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I hadn't thought to wonder if the Doctor can't remember him after all. I guess there isn't much direct evidence, except Matt Smith's performance at the end of the episode. The Doctor is clearly gutted, probably far more than he ever expected to be.
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I liked this two parter even though it was sort of "by the numbers". In fact, I've liked the whole season and I never thought I would.
I think there's more to Amy than just this memory business. Even from the start you had to wonder what "aunt" would go out late at night and leave a 7 year old on their own like that. Is she something to do with this Pandorical thingie herself? This "crack" seems to be wherever she is - or wherever the Doctor is...so I guess that could be linked.
I just don't want a reset. I don't want an RTD-style "it never happened" crappy kind of ending.
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Then their adventures underground mean Rory is dead and so he is also dead in his "other life" because only Amy is now waving when they leave.
But that Rory wasn't the Rory who died! You can't treat one character in one way - Rory dying and vanishing - and Amy 'going off in Tardis but apparently still living in village' in another.
Or am I missing something.
And I personally think everything this series is played out on the 'wrong' side of the crack. The real side is the glowy one.
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So I agree, either there's something we don't yet know that makes it all consistent, or we're not understanding the rules yet (Mr P's complaint) or it's sloppy writing (I don't yet want to believe that, though I would certainly already have believed it were RTD still in charge). I like your alternative explanation: the other side of the crack is real.
I thought at first that we'd be seeing a short time hop happening in this episode. The Rory & Amy waving from the hill were a hint about how the puzzle of the week would be resolved. Ha. No.
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Regardless of what happens with Rory, Moffet has me fascinated with where this season is going.
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I hope that Rory isn't dead, but I would hope Moffatt does have the guts to keep him dead. I am utterly fascinated by this series. I am really looking forward to having everything figured out by the Doctor.
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