As i said, I'm a bedamned traditionalist. There is a term for establishing families within communities, there is a tradition for establishing families within communities. That term and that tradition is marriage.
I don't hold with changing traditions frivolously, and this giving over that tradition to a specific subset of religions to dictate their laws to people who have different beliefs and different gods is a damned frivilous abuse of tradition.
It's not theirs, and it never was. No peace with thieves.
I grow fatigued of this debate. I am genuinely sorry that I cannot share my goodwill for people that love one another, and that my logic does not find purchase in you. I can only turn off this channel, and say, in parting: I am sorry that you feel your rights and way of life are so insecure when they are not.
Abuse of the thesaurus much? I like to speak in highfalutin too, but damn. I grow fatigued of this debate Why is it I can just imagine this person dramatically pressing the back of her hand against her forehead while typing this?
What frustrates me the most is that she's brilliant, one of the funniest people I know, and occasionally a genius. Or she was once. I don't know what happened to her over the past couple years.
I used to believe in the whole 'civil union' idea. Give gays every legal right marriage has, just don't call it that. Then I started seeing not just young, pretty single gays still looking for someone (I was younger, keep in mind), but started seeing families. People with kids. People in long term relationships. I don't even remember changing my mind, but I do have to wonder of myself and others who still believe in separate but equal...What gives me the right to decide what a family is? Goodness knows I'm the result of non-nuclear family styles. It just sort of all clicked. If marriage makes a family of two and there is love, then I say break out the rice. Or bubbles. Rice is bad for birds. :)
Just thoughts from someone who changed their mind after stopping to think about it.
Please let me preface this with the fact that I am just as biased -towards- gay marriage as some people are away from it. My sister is gay, and she's the most decent, hard-working, self-sacrificing person I have ever known. She practically -defines- morality in a lot of ways, as I see it, so yeah, bias here.
That said, I think the inter-racial marriage analogy is a really good one. Growing up in Georgia, certainly the same terms are bandied about involving both kinds of unions. 'Immoral', 'Evil', 'ruining the sanctity of marriage' and so on and so forth. Ethnicity and sexuality may be very different things, but the xenophobia that seems to hold against both kinds of marriage smells remarkably similar. A great cartoon on the topic -- http://cagle.slate.msn.com/working/040206/thompson.jpg
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/Oumi
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I don't hold with changing traditions frivolously, and this giving over that tradition to a specific subset of religions to dictate their laws to people who have different beliefs and different gods is a damned frivilous abuse of tradition.
It's not theirs, and it never was. No peace with thieves.
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I grow fatigued of this debate. I am genuinely sorry that I cannot share my goodwill for people that love one another, and that my logic does not find purchase in you. I can only turn off this channel, and say, in parting: I am sorry that you feel your rights and way of life are so insecure when they are not.
Abuse of the thesaurus much? I like to speak in highfalutin too, but damn. I grow fatigued of this debate Why is it I can just imagine this person dramatically pressing the back of her hand against her forehead while typing this?
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Just thoughts from someone who changed their mind after stopping to think about it.
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That said, I think the inter-racial marriage analogy is a really good one. Growing up in Georgia, certainly the same terms are bandied about involving both kinds of unions. 'Immoral', 'Evil', 'ruining the sanctity of marriage' and so on and so forth. Ethnicity and sexuality may be very different things, but the xenophobia that seems to hold against both kinds of marriage smells remarkably similar. A great cartoon on the topic -- http://cagle.slate.msn.com/working/040206/thompson.jpg
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