Comments | ann_tara: Saturday nights are wild times (except when they're really not)

ann_tara

Saturday nights are wild times (except when they're really not)

Feb 10, 2007 22:09

You always hear the "empty nest syndrome" described as if it were a bad thing. I'd give my left tit right now to be reveling in The Empty Nest. I'm just saying. One of those days.

( How about that weird wacky weather, eh. )

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ezust February 11 2007, 14:24:17 UTC

Of course, eventually when the polar ice caps melt, the state will be underwater and the insurance mafia won't have Florida to screw over anymore.

Well, there is that. ;-P

Man I hope she's right, because it sounds really plausible and it would make sense that Dean has a much bigger role to play in the game to come than just being Sam's bodyguard.Interesting. I was just saying to Star last night that after starting the series over from the beginning, I'm starting to revise my impression that this was Sam's story, with Dean as the sidekick ( ... )

ann_tara February 11 2007, 15:02:34 UTC

But really, it was there right from the start: we may have begun the story with Sam, but my feeling now is that we are planted in Dean's POV, and by making him the emotional center of the series, they've elevated his status from sidekick to (doomed?) hero.

Yikes! That is one niggling fear I have, especially with Dean having died or been close to death at least twice now. Maybe the producers envision the series end with Dean's final and permanent death as a byproduct of saving the world and his brother. *eek* Sad, but I could see it.

I just hope we get at least another season to know where this series is really going.

ezust February 11 2007, 15:09:00 UTC

Maybe the producers envision the series end with Dean's final and permanent death as a byproduct of saving the world and his brother. *eek* Sad, but I could see it.

That would also make some sense, and stick with the continuity of Sam allowing himself to be so passive about his own life, when Dean is in it.

This may be the story of how it takes the sacrifice of one brother to free the other of his inertia and reluctance to be in control of his life again.

I mean, Sam seemed to manage fine when he was at school, right? So why is he not taking charge now, when it affects him most, and is allowing Dean to be the only one sounding pro-active and being all fighting wordy? O.o

ann_tara February 11 2007, 15:21:21 UTC

This may be the story of how it takes the sacrifice of one brother to free the other of his inertia and reluctance to be in control of his life again.

True. Of course, as strong as this season has been, I'm not entirely convinced the producers aren't changing the game plan as they move along from episode to episode. Meaning that the longer this series (hopefully!) stays on the air, the more chance the focus will shift any number of times. I still don't believe the whole YED story is playing out at all the way they initially envisioned it when all Kripke was worrying about was getting the Pilot to air.

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coppertopp February 12 2007, 19:14:11 UTC

Expending all that energy instead on trying to break Dean has to mean that Dean is a significant threat to the YED's plans, if not the key to stopping it. Now that would be cool.Yes, it is interesting that the Meg-Demon used Sam's body to go after Dean. Why would she do that? My feeling was that she was off the reservation on this one - it was a personal dislike of Dean on her part, rather than being part of her father's master plan. She did say that she didn't give a rat's ass about the Master Plan. I think she probably wasn't lying about that. This wasn't about fulfilling Daddy's plan. It was about scoring some payback on Dean and hopefully killing Sam in the process. And I can't see her dad being cool with that, since he has plans for Sam. But for her purposes, the possession was a win-win - if she can get Dean to kill Sam, then he will torture himself when he learns the truth, and if he won't, then she gets more leverage to do whatever she wants because Dean won't kill his brother's body. Either way, she gets to torture ( ... )

ann_tara February 12 2007, 20:02:01 UTC

Last season was more about Sam, but this season has been all about Dean and his journey. In the final equation, Sam may have the paranormal powers necessary to defeat the Demon, but Dean is the one with the driving will, the one who will keep Sam grounded and ultimately on target.Sure, that goes without saying. But while it may be Dean's strong will that saves Sam and the day in the end, my beef has always been that this role as Sam's savior isn't specific to Dean, or about Dean at all. It's still all about Sam, and IMO, the journey and the battle or whatever should be about both boys. After all, there ain't no show without one or the other. Sam's little "speshul" gift un-levels the playing field - at least, it did for a goodly amount of the first season ( ... )

coppertopp February 12 2007, 21:47:52 UTC

You know, a friend of mine made an interesting observation while we were talking about SPN this morning. He said that in S1, particularly the first part, that Sam was meant to be the audience POV character, in that he was a cipher and was just joining in the story and trying to catch up, and that as he learned more and got up to speed, the audience did with him. Dean was already part of the story, already chasing the Demon. It was Sam's POV that the more closely resembled where the average audience member would be. But, this season, now that Sam has served that purpose in full, the audience POV tends to shift naturally to Dean because he is the one who is more focused and grounded, and also just plain more sympathetic because of the situation he is in. Like so many of us, he is faced with all of these problems and he's just trying to hold it together. That is far more emotionally resonant for your average viewer than Sam's plight of dealing with having supernatural abilities and some weird destiny. This season, an audience ( ... )

ann_tara February 13 2007, 13:01:30 UTC

I will confess that I liked Sam more than you apparently did first season.

But I do like Sam, and the funny thing is, I was prepared for him to be the primary draw for me in the beginning because I was familiar with JP from GG (before GG turned awful). I only knew JA from SV and that whole horrible witchy Lanaville crapfest from season four, so needless to say, he didn't exactly impress me. Not that I blamed him for the shite he was having to wallow in - I mean, it was a job. But I had nothing else to compare him to, so I didn't come away with much of an impression at all (particularly since I didn't watch most of the fourth season).

I totally got why he became so obsessive after his girlfriend's death, and how blind grief can make you to things. I forgave him for his persistence in seeing Dean as a second father-figure even as I ached for poor Dean for being placed in such an untenable position. But this season, I'm starting to become more impatient with Sam, and I think that a lot of it has to do with the whole Destiny thing, ( ... )