Elfangor broke time.

Apr 29, 2013 22:07

So, what happened in the timeline Elfangor created by breaking time accidentally? There is no Aximili. Why not? Why wouldn't their parents have been more inclined to produce more offspring, rather than less? Were they no longer allowed because Elfangor had gone missing and the Andalite government thought he was somehow defective? Did Elfangor's ( Read more... )

book: the andalite chronicles, discussion: general, speculation

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chiapetzukamori April 30 2013, 06:23:15 UTC
The way I always understood it was this:
Elfangor is born, has his childhood, becomes an aristh, experiences all the good stuff in "The Andalite Chronicles," sires Tobias, and then the Ellimist resets the timeline and sends him back in time - he made Elfangor an Andalite again, so I don't see why he couldn't give him a younger body either. The Ellimist is essentially God, afterall :-)
Oh, and I mean that I think Elfangor was sent to a time after the events on the Taxxon homeworld. He had been missing, afterall. So Sub-Visser 7 is in Prince Alloran, Abron is stuck in morph, and Elfangor just shows up in the middle of a battle after having been missing. Uh, and then at some point after this Ax is born. I think he hadn't yet been conceived at the point that Elfangor returned to - but Elfangor saw in the timelines that he was going to be born ( ... )

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eien_herrison April 30 2013, 12:13:00 UTC
I've always thought something similar -- the Ellimist fixed the timeline so that Elfangor was MIA between the Taxxon world and suddenly showing up to fight Visser 3, but left Loren's age and her being pregnant with Tobias (I wonder how much he had to bargain with Crayak to get that allowed), maybe altering some things so that Loren and her husband were the biological parents while still keeping the link between Tobias and Elfangor.

Edit: And with Aximili, I'd suspected that their parents were more in the process of allowing him to be born, perhaps some sort of Andalite IVF or an appeals system to allow them to have a second child. Either Elfangor being presumed dead or suspicion on his behaviour could have prevented their parents being allowed a second child.

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blue_rampion April 30 2013, 13:27:33 UTC
The Ellimist did it is pretty much the only solution to how Tobias was born at all, really. Which kinda does lead to bizarre and unsettling thoughts of the Ellimist going and implating baby-Tobias into her womb. Unless he just magically transported Loren wholesale into the new timeline and fiddled around with her memory, like you suggest.

...You know, it occurs to me that this makes it kinda odd that Cassie was the one that was 'Temporally Grounded', or whatever it was called in MM4. When you think about it, with Tobias managing to remain despite the entire flow of time changing so that he shouldn't even have existed in the first place, it probably would have made more sense for him to be the grounded one.

But then, this is time travel. Really, where does logic even come into all of this? XD

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chordatesrock April 30 2013, 18:27:03 UTC
Now, that is something to consider if I ever write an AU where there is no Cassie. (It would not be an AU where everything is magically perfect, by the way.)

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cork118 April 30 2013, 17:40:11 UTC
The real answer is "rocks fall, everyone dies goes back in time."

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mattiris May 1 2013, 10:32:09 UTC
I don't know, but I now desperately want to read some Doctor Who/Ellimist crossover fic.

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anijen21 May 6 2013, 23:34:33 UTC
I feel like I've figured this out/realized I made a mistake/figured it out again like four or five times by this point

but my theory is something like this:

The False Universe created by the Time Matrix artificially aged Loren and Elfangor what, like five years let's say? Then they spent three more years together on Earth, right?

see fuck I'm already confused

well, whatever, my theory is that the Ellimist just took Elfangor back in time for the three or five years he shouldn't have been away. Like he went back in time three years but de-aged eight, or something. But then Loren just kept on living normally from the time he left her so she could have Tobias.

And I like the false memories of a deadbeat dad, too. I have no idea who the aunt and uncle are though, who they're related to, because it would have to be Loren, right? Does anyone remember?

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anijen21 May 6 2013, 23:47:10 UTC
well wait he would have gone back in time three years but deaged five because he only aged as a human on Earth

WHATEVER I CAN'T BELIEVE I DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS PLOT. That's just because the character stuff was so good who cared :(

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with_rainfall May 7 2013, 10:51:00 UTC
I'd say the aunt and uncle would have to be on Loren's side, unless the Ellimist for some reason grabbed random strangers and implanted memories in them. I mean, there's obviously no reason he couldn't do that in theory, but it's probably simpler to assume both the aunt and the uncle are Loren's siblings, or that one of them is Tobias's blood relation and their spouse is his uncle/aunt by marriage. I've forgotten if their relationship to her is mentioned in #49.

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acts_of_tekla May 11 2013, 04:18:51 UTC
What would have happened in a timeline that was never fixed because it wasn't broken? What if there had been no Time Matrix, or what if it had not been uncovered by the Skrit Na? Would Elfangor and Loren have died in space? What about Esplin and Alloran? Presumably, Tobias would not exist; would the Animorphs have come together? Would Aximili have been born? Would he have been on the ship and found himself on Earth? Would Earth have simply been lost?

I now want to write an AU where the Skrit-Na picked up Loren and Chapman, but not the Time Matrix, and then they have to escape from the alien zoo and find their way back to Earth.

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chordatesrock May 11 2013, 05:03:20 UTC
You should. I would read that.

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