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Jul 26, 2005 21:15

"Blinking suppresses the neural response to unchanging retinal stimulation."

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spamsink July 27 2005, 05:03:29 UTC
A related question is how much in the persistence of vision is retinal and how much is neural. With the advent of DLP projectors we have a way to know that within average lighting conditions, the retinal persistence of peripheral vision is negligible. Unless the peripheral cones are morphologically different from the macular ones, we have to assume that it is all neural. The wiring to slow down the persistence decay while the eyes are closed must be very simple.

By the way, on a bright sunny day I can walk with my eyes closed more than 95% of the time. It is enough to "reverse blink" the eyes every 6-7 steps to walk fairly comfortably in an uncrowded street. I can perceive even some sort of motion estimation.

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anhinga_anhinga July 27 2005, 15:29:12 UTC
One would assume it is all neural. (How do the DLP projectors show that?)

> The wiring to slow down the persistence decay while the eyes are closed must be very simple.

Yes, it should be fairly simple; what's interesting is that it also seems quite extensive in its impact. I wonder how detailed are their fMRI pictures...

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spamsink July 27 2005, 21:30:23 UTC
DLP projectors use a rotating (>= 60 rpm) RGB wheel, so that a white field is formed by displaying rapidly alternating red, green, and blue.

Under some conditions (when you turn your head quickly and do not concentrate attention on the screen) you can see a rainbow strip flash at the edge of your field of vision, which means that the 1/180 sec periods of alternating colors were correctly sampled by the retina, but the averaging was not done. That is to say the peripheral motion detection, shape tracking, and the persistence of vision are somewhat interlinked (and mutually exclusive?).

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spamsink July 27 2005, 21:36:50 UTC
I'll tell you more. There was a chapter in the Soviet "Children's Encyclopedia" describing unusual persistence of (black-and-white) vision in children. The children were shown a drawing of a truck on a city street for and were asked questions about the details of the drawing (how many windows the buildings have, how many floors, how many axles the truck has, etc.). able to answer these questions for 5-9 seconds after the drawing was removed. I don't remember if they said anything about children closing their eyes to prolong the effect, though.

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