Comments | anguirel: "With this candle, I will set your mother on fire..."

anguirel

"With this candle, I will set your mother on fire..."

Oct 02, 2005 15:47

Saw Corpse Bride. Totally not what I expected (which is impressive, since I went in with no knowledge of the movie and no real expectations). Animation and style-wise, more refined than Nightmare Before Christmas. Story-wise it was good but... I dunno... some of the song sequences felt... forced or something. It didn't feel as natural for them ( Read more... )

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Spoiler! zhai October 2 2005, 23:30:06 UTC

The heroine DIES! OH NOES

Re: Spoiler! anguirel October 3 2005, 07:49:18 UTC

Would you really call her the heroine? The title character, perhaps, but I'd see her more as antagonist than protagonist.

Re: Spoiler! zhai October 3 2005, 12:32:20 UTC

It's possible that the movie didn't have a heroine at all -- the story was a little odd that way -- but as the catalyst that drove the main character (I don't think he was really a hero, either) to recognize (or allowed him to acknowledge) certain parts of his personality that he was repressing, I think she was a heroine. She also was the one to make the critical decision in the end, and was the one who changed the most. If anything, she was more than just the title character, but whether you call her protagonist or heroine is probably up for debate. =)

Despite being not optimally executed (I agree that the whole thing felt rushed in a number of ways), the movie did have some pretty interesting things to say...

Re: Spoiler! anguirel October 4 2005, 08:00:15 UTC

Actual Possible SpoilersBut Miss CB didn't make him recognize that... Victoria is the one who made him see those parts of himself, right at the beginning. And then things get in the way, but he doesn't stop and she doesn't stop... I'll agree that Emily is definitely the pivotal character, the one who changes, and given the abrubt ending, also evidently the only one who matters. :P She's also the obstacle preventing the story from swiftly reaching resolution ( ... )

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thatszechuan October 3 2005, 02:36:25 UTC

I agree, with the following additions/exceptions:

I felt that many of the characters also felt forced. The settings and extras simply didn't catch the eye the same way Nightmare still does today - over a decade after its release.

The Maggot. 10% off the movie's rating right there.

I don't feel cheated, but I would recommend that people wait 'til home video, or steal it.

anonymous October 4 2005, 02:47:38 UTC

Was going more for "band" than "orchestra". The major point is actually less the saturation of instruments (which was higher than Nightmare, IMHO) and more the saturation of voices -- there were few songs that only had one or two singers, and a lot of them had very dense collections of wierldy-voiced undead singing. It could've been very interesting, but it doesn't even come off as "dissonant" -- it's more like just plain "busy". The songs in general were just saturated.

Erm... tikal October 4 2005, 02:52:03 UTC

...that was me, by the way. D'oh.

Re: Erm... anguirel October 4 2005, 07:50:20 UTC

Just gave Nightmare (and some other Elfman) a listen for a few hours - I'd need to have Corpse Bride Soundtrack to do a real comparison, but while there are differences, it isn't in voice count, voice quality, or orchestration, really... Nightmare has a lot of voices, and many are weird -- however, it has a few additional elements, the most important of which is how the songs are paced and how the move. I think Nightmare's songs all push the story forward, and although there are chorus lines that get repeated, the songs generally lack the... repetition, I guess, that showed up in Corpse Bride. They're also just generally better... Hmm ( ... )