003 - [Audio]
[Shortly after this, Jetfire has been attempting to distract himself, having gone to the library but that's not exactly working, and all he can come up with?]
A question, if you will; what would be the difference between science and magic?
[He has accepted the possibility of more-than-natural... or supernatural/divine events, if barely, but that ( Read more... )
A question, if you will; what would be the difference between science and magic?
[He has accepted the possibility of more-than-natural... or supernatural/divine events, if barely, but that ( Read more... )
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Mmm... Not so much kicked anything, but... Were the humans ever of the opinion of those of you who landed on Earth being nothing more than... non-sentient, spark-less drones? Automatons.
[Maybe it shouldn't matter what another species thought of them (especially considering the lack of respect for human life the Decepticons had...), but being considered less than he actually was was... unsettling.
He does his best to not let that be heard, however.]
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I just didn't expect... I mean, I suppose it's understandable in a way; lacking other references and context, and with the greatest complexity perhaps being simple AI, assuming we are the same isn't unreasonable. Still.
[Just talking was actually helping him order his reaction, but that doesn't make him any less affected by it.]
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Fuels it? Hmm... different sources of energy? [He's not actually sure what those who think magic exist considers magic, but energy, being not necessarily easily visible, is the closest he can think of. But energy, however, still has a place in the natural world.]
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[Is divine intervention and a mech seemingly powered beyond normal limits and possibilities the same as magic?]
Maybe it'll simply be impossible to answer correctly as the difference will lie in whether magic does exist in any given reality and the origins of it, as well as how it works, will differ between any reality with magic... Which are all obsolete when it comes to those that do not contain anything that could be considered 'magic'.
[He's only partially talking directly to you right now, Sollux. More like thinking out loud, but if you find it interesting...]
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So if real magic exists, there are no conditions to control it and no power source to limit it, so that reality wouldn't last long, would it?
I think for any reality to use 'magic' practically, there would have to be rules and restrictions on it, and if there are rules and restrictions, it can be pinned down and explained. That's all.
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[Helpful, even if this doesn't make him more or less decided on the reality of "magic" as such, but the question had been open for a reason.]
Thank you.
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[Why yes, she does have the definition memorized. Scientist 101.]
Magic, from what I've seen of it, involves a lot of hand waving and making things spontaneously occur in ways I can't make any damn sense of. But somehow it can make an entire sun disappear and still provide a life-sustaining light and heat source.
I've just decided to accept the crazy and take it as it is.
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Well, while I am doubtful magic has been used to make the sun appear as if it's not present... A cloaking device in conjunction with an energy field would effectively create a limited space and at the same time make it seem as if there is no sun, while retaining the effects of one.
[Because there is some sort of ceiling... and probably walls. He hit his helm on it when flying.]
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...Energy field?
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Consider a device or machine that has has enough power-output that the energy produced can, between set points, create a wall... or dome, separating what's within or without.
I suppose the easiest would be one such thing created with electricity, without leading said electricity through wires or metal, it being strong enough to be kept in place by two or more separate anchors, placed at the desired distance from each other.
[There's a pause as he thinks about this.]
I assume for a human, or most organic beings, unless protected, such a high concentration of power that an electric field would need would be quite... detrimental.
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The other is just stupid.
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[He isn't laughing. Nope. Not at all. Jetfire certainly understands the sentiment; it's one he'd prefer to cling to, but a few unexplainable things have been happening in his own universe, and a good scientist ask questions and look for explanations.]
At least science does us the favour of being easily observable and tested.
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[After all that time on the Elegante, someone has a reasonably jaded view on 'magic'.]
... Now you sound like someone I know.
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Should I apologize? [There's a brief chuckle; someone else had said he'd reminded them of someone too, after all, but this being a fellow Cybertronian (no matter the different universes), it was a bit closer to home, so to speak.]
Who, if I may ask?
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