love that quote about film being about answers and television about questions -- the comics, and not just because of their torturous pacing, are even more about the questions, if it's possible :).
...I wanna know spoilers! Tell me how it all ends pleeeeease :D Can you pm me? :)
Also great thoughts about Buffy and Spike. I love that they could never have a big mutually loving ending in canon, partly because the writers can't avoid the massive "forever love" of Buffy and Angel, and partly because of their characters. I feel like when they're older, when Buffy's settling into her thirties, maybe then they could actually have a relationship because their lives and emotions will have settled down and all the trivial stuff will be just too trivial to let it get in the way.
Haha, I don't really have spoilers for Season 9 to share though!
This is just my musing on them. Yeah, I'm so over "forever love" when it comes to them. I mean, when it's played up to be "forever love". Obviously "it never ends" is a different kind of forever, but it's the kind I'm down with. :D
I’m looking forward to B/S in S9 too. I really enjoyed their dynamic in S8 and it felt really refreshing to see Spike with a little more independence. It completely changes the way they interact with each other and I’m curious to see how that will play out.
I was thinking about this a little more the other day and I wouldn’t mind it if Buffy and Spike were together without actually being together, ya know? Like, the words “boyfriend” and “girlfriend” don’t really mean anything and when they’re with each other they’re partners (in every sense of the word) and when they’re not, they’re not.
Like, the words “boyfriend” and “girlfriend” don’t really mean anything and when they’re with each other they’re partners (in every sense of the word) and when they’re not, they’re not.
They're my favorite nontraditional couple. "Girlfriend" and "boyfriend", even "husband" and "wife" seem to never fit right. They're Spike and Buffy. They're partners.
For me, I look at it and think they'll never end. They'll keep circling each other, caught in each other's orbits, they'll keep colliding, they'll keep dancing. The music will never stop, not really, and even if it does, it'll be brief pauses where I hope to enjoy the blissful silence where looks speak louder than words, where hands cup cheeks, and shoulders bump as they settle into fighting stances.
I have no idea what's going on in the comics, but what you wrote there (and I think I've mentioned this before) is pretty much my ideal Spike and Buffy future. I love the idea of there always being this tension between them, of being separated for a long time but naturally falling into place together when they reunite, of what exactly they are to each other never quite defined--to each other or the people around them--but then their actions giving away how important the other one is to them. I don't know, I just can't see them as settled down into some nice, domestic relationship. I prefer it to how you described it here: uncertainty,
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my ideal Spike and Buffy future. I love the idea of there always being this tension between them, of being separated for a long time but naturally falling into place together when they reunite, of what exactly they are to each other never quite defined--to each other or the people around them--but then their actions giving away how important the other one is to them. I don't know, I just can't see them as settled down into some nice, domestic relationship. I prefer it to how you described it here: uncertainty, ambiguity, tension. That's what I enjoy about this pairing.
Exactly. They're my nontraditional love affair. I don't want them bowing to expected patterns. And as much as I love them colliding, I love watching them tentatively bridge the space between. I love their stops and starts, their awkwardness and misunderstandings. I love their natural intimacy even when they're uncertain of each other.
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your optimism makes me happy!
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Also great thoughts about Buffy and Spike. I love that they could never have a big mutually loving ending in canon, partly because the writers can't avoid the massive "forever love" of Buffy and Angel, and partly because of their characters. I feel like when they're older, when Buffy's settling into her thirties, maybe then they could actually have a relationship because their lives and emotions will have settled down and all the trivial stuff will be just too trivial to let it get in the way.
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This is just my musing on them. Yeah, I'm so over "forever love" when it comes to them. I mean, when it's played up to be "forever love". Obviously "it never ends" is a different kind of forever, but it's the kind I'm down with. :D
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I was thinking about this a little more the other day and I wouldn’t mind it if Buffy and Spike were together without actually being together, ya know? Like, the words “boyfriend” and “girlfriend” don’t really mean anything and when they’re with each other they’re partners (in every sense of the word) and when they’re not, they’re not.
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Like, the words “boyfriend” and “girlfriend” don’t really mean anything and when they’re with each other they’re partners (in every sense of the word) and when they’re not, they’re not.
They're my favorite nontraditional couple. "Girlfriend" and "boyfriend", even "husband" and "wife" seem to never fit right. They're Spike and Buffy. They're partners.
I love that.
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I love this. That is all.
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I have no idea what's going on in the comics, but what you wrote there (and I think I've mentioned this before) is pretty much my ideal Spike and Buffy future. I love the idea of there always being this tension between them, of being separated for a long time but naturally falling into place together when they reunite, of what exactly they are to each other never quite defined--to each other or the people around them--but then their actions giving away how important the other one is to them. I don't know, I just can't see them as settled down into some nice, domestic relationship. I prefer it to how you described it here: uncertainty, ( ... )
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Exactly. They're my nontraditional love affair. I don't want them bowing to expected patterns. And as much as I love them colliding, I love watching them tentatively bridge the space between. I love their stops and starts, their awkwardness and misunderstandings. I love their natural intimacy even when they're uncertain of each other.
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