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menomegirl June 12 2010, 23:56:36 UTC
That's one of those things for us to ponder on, I suppose. There's nothing in the shooting script to explain why Dawn looked that way.

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angearia June 13 2010, 00:26:17 UTC
Yeah, I think it's interesting. I'd love it if someone did some fic about it.

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local_max June 12 2010, 23:56:49 UTC
Re: Spike and Dawn: Great catch!

Just a theory: Maybe Dawn, when she went to see Spike, was cruel to him. I could see her telling Spike to stop licking his wounds and go out and kill the demon in order to save Buffy. Buffy is more important than Spike's recovery time, in other words. Then her expression upon his return is guilt--she knows that he is in incredible amounts of pain, and feels terrible for what she said to spur him on.

I've decided to adapt this Dawn-Spike "tough love" scene into my personal canon--until something better comes up. :)

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eilowyn June 13 2010, 00:33:03 UTC
I like having a personal canon. There's a lot more love in my personal canon. And yes, there was some sort of exchange between Spike and Dawn during that scene that expressed how much they did (and do!) care about each other, even if the relationship is still strained (biggest character-driven complaint about season 7 - no Spike/Dawn reconciliation!). I just don't know what that exchange was.

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penny_lane_42 June 14 2010, 03:26:20 UTC
...I'm thinking I might have to write this. Sometime.

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infinitewhale June 13 2010, 00:20:26 UTC

In Storyteller, I think Andrew specifically states Dawn "used to" be a key. Not that he's a definitive source of information, but it does suggest that as the story has been related to him by Dawn herself or one of the group, she's not seen as the the key anymore.

Has there been a spoiler leaked or something or is all the Dawn speculation just fandom running amok in the long wait?

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angearia June 13 2010, 00:25:39 UTC
It's all fandom speculation that Dawn's Key nature will be central to Whedon's finale arc.

Storyteller
ANDREW
Dawn used to be a key. (zooms to keys on the table) I don't really know what that means.

Yeah, you're right. He does say that. Of course, he's the unreliable narrator. But it continues to support the impression that the writers have given--Dawn used to be the Key.

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menomegirl June 13 2010, 00:31:00 UTC
Just because the writers have a character say something like that does not make it set in stone. It's just what the characters know or *think* they know.

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angearia June 13 2010, 00:34:40 UTC
Yep, I know. That's what I mean by unreliable narrator. But in turn, treating Dawn as not the Key for so long continues the expectation. Like I said elsewhere, it's a could-be situation that the writers have worked hard to create where as we'd probably all assume she was still the Key without them saying anything. But instead, whenever the Key is brought up, it's done in a manner to create doubt, not certainty.

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eilowyn June 13 2010, 00:36:30 UTC
Congratulations, it's a plot bunny! During the wedding prep this weekend, any time I'm not needed (as the un-bridesmaid, doing everything but being an actual bridesmaid *grumble* *well, at least I didn't need to buy the dress* *grumbles again - it's an issue being worked on with the therapist*, I have lots of little duties to help the bride and mother of the bride out - and lots of waiting time), I'll be having thinky thoughts and plot bunnies running around my head about this mysterious exchange between Spike and Dawn. Maybe when I get back, I'll try ficcing this scene out or something.

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snickfic June 13 2010, 03:55:34 UTC
Ooh, I spotted that first half of your Spike&Dawn thing in this last rewatch, but then couldn't remember which episode it's in. I didn't spot the second bit, though. I checked the shooting script, but it's got nada. Hmm.

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angearia June 14 2010, 01:10:38 UTC
Someone should fic this... *hints*

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