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Interesting Links for 14-02-2017

Feb 14, 2017 12:00

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Comments 16

danieldwilliam February 14 2017, 12:47:09 UTC

I don't think the Nazis failure to bring women in to the workforce was a mistake as such. There was something deeply screwed up about their economic ideology which meant that they thought they prefered to allocate female labour to domestic tasks rather than the war effort and also chose to murder many, many people who could have been used as forced labour. The chose to prefer an economy that reflected their ideology rather than a war winning one. I'm not sure that's a mistake exactly. I think if they had been offered a choice between women working in factories and inevitably demanding more economic and social freedom and losing the war they'd have gone for losing the war.

The Wages of Sin by Toombs is good on Nazi economics.

andrewducker February 14 2017, 13:00:10 UTC

I'm sure that some of the high command will have felt that way.

danieldwilliam February 14 2017, 14:00:23 UTC

Aye, I'm specifically not thinking of the general German population.

Everytime I've ever gone anywhere near Nazi "thinking" on anything I know about I end up being almost frantic with baffled rage at the willful dumbness. Those guys were weird. Dunning-Krueger in fancy hats.

They'd have been totally in to panzer-storks. They tried to resurrect the Aurochs.

brixtonbrood February 14 2017, 14:51:54 UTC

These are the people who refused to use "Jewish Science" when trying to build atomic weapons aren't they?

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USian Spies danieldwilliam February 14 2017, 12:48:31 UTC

Do you think Trump has forgotten J Edgar Hoover and the assassination of JFK?

Re: USian Spies andrewducker February 14 2017, 12:59:45 UTC

I'm not convinced that Trump will actually know who either of those people _are_.

danieldwilliam February 14 2017, 13:13:25 UTC

But they were standing right next to Frederick Douglas.

ext_2864067 February 14 2017, 17:57:58 UTC

Trump's administration seems to be constantly teetering on the edge of imploding.

The bad news is that that almost certainly leaves the US under Pence.

I'm still not sure whether that's any better.

theweaselking February 14 2017, 19:37:44 UTC

Significantly better.

Pence is a misogynist and a bigot. He's an ideologue who would rather hurt people and fail than admit his personal beliefs are not objective reality. He would, without a doubt, be among the five worst Presidents the USA has ever had.

He's not going to start a war *out of personal pique* or compromise national security *by accident* or *openly* loot the Treasury for personal gain. He's a white supremacist but only in the casual default sense, not an active neo-Nazi.

All of this makes him waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than trump.

andrewducker February 15 2017, 12:49:31 UTC

Yeah, all of that. Pence would be terrible, but Trump is cthuloid.

resonant February 19 2017, 17:37:53 UTC

Incompetent cthuloid; I still think a less-evil but more intelligent president like Pence would be worse. Pence would have had a legal review of Trump's Muslim ban, and would have made it harder for the courts to shoot it down.

Sort of like former Toronto mayor Rob Ford (evil buffoon, rarely able to enact permanent harmful changes), and his brother Councellor Doug Ford (less evil, but better able to actually enact permanent harmful changes)

theweaselking February 14 2017, 19:40:40 UTC

re: "Automatic online conviction" - makes sense to me? Similar to how in Ontario if you get a traffic citation or a parking ticket, you can pay online or over the phone by pleading guilty and having done with it, or you can show up in court to argue. It's a timesaver overall; you fucked up, you got caught, you pay the fine and you're done, no need to make the system (OR YOU) go through any more work than that.

andrewducker February 15 2017, 12:51:02 UTC

Oh, I agree. Just interesting to see the process moving further up the chain. You can already agree to parking tickets, etc. online - this seems to be taking the process a step further. There are limits to how far I'd be comfortable with it going, but so long as you can say "No, I want to have a proper trial" I'm happy.