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Interesting Links for 19-05-2016

May 19, 2016 12:00

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Captain America was right cartesiandaemon May 19 2016, 11:51:47 UTC

It occurs to me, a lot of the discourse surrounding the movie is really interesting for the same reason it is impossible for it to ever definitively come down on one side or the other: the movie leaves most of the key information unspecified.

They never say at all, what's in the Sokovia accords. Does it require rounding up all meta-humans, or just that being a meta-human doesn't give you a license for international vigilante-ism, or is it ambiguous? They never say if there's a genuine international procedure for this putative UN committee, or if it's basically a toothless beard over the US military's right to do whatever it wants. When Tony asks Vision to keep Scarlet Witch indoors, it's not clear if that's a (pretty sensible) unofficial stop-gap to prevent panic, with no legal force, or if meta-humans are officially denied human rights and due process.

And, remember, denying due process to anyone is denying due process to everyone because if they call you a terrorist, or a meta-human, or whatever, then you can't appeal if because ( ... )

RE: Captain America was right radiumhead May 19 2016, 12:05:08 UTC

Yeah. If it was like the real life Un, id figure they were useless, and just sign up. I wouldnt sweat it.

RE: Captain America was right cartesiandaemon May 19 2016, 12:16:17 UTC

Yeah, elsewhere someone made the point that "sign up, then bend the rules when necessary and deal with the fallout when it comes" was a plausible option and maybe it would have been better if more characters on both sides had settled for it.

RE: Captain America was right radiumhead May 19 2016, 12:22:18 UTC

they totally couldve done that. they could save the world again, then after, tell the government "we forgot to call you and let you know we were gonna save the world,again. Whoops."

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radiumhead May 19 2016, 12:03:47 UTC

there is actually a good reason for iron mans position-but as far as i know, that position isnt used in Civil War.
It's this: Iron Man knows Thanos is coming-if not Thanos specifically, some worldwide (possibly universe-wide) threat. If i was him, id use the registration thing to find as many super powered people as possible, to have them on my team, all in one place, to know where they all are. I also wouldve explained to cap there are more important things going on than Bucky.

andrewducker May 19 2016, 12:07:20 UTC

Good point. Tony's seen alien space armadas through a hole in space. He's seen (a vision of) the future, where all of his friends are dead.

It would be surprising ifhe wasn't trying to gather heroes together.

radiumhead May 19 2016, 12:10:11 UTC

it makes perfect sense. But as far as i know, that isnt in the movie. Im seeing the movie on sunday.

bart_calendar May 19 2016, 13:49:37 UTC

I'd buy this argument if we had every once in any of the movies seen Tony make a good decision ( ... )

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lil_shepherd May 19 2016, 17:32:24 UTC

Yes, the original comics 'Civil War' were simply ... well, stupid. In fact, in order to have Cap go rogue they had Maria Hill try to arrest him before the Superhero Registration Act went through ( ... )