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momentsmusicaux August 5 2015, 13:06:36 UTC
I don't see how it's pedantic. Rather, it's a matter of semantics. The article sums it up perfectly at the end: 'Essentially, I'd been asking for the equivalent of a black coffee with milk.'

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spacelem August 6 2015, 10:17:30 UTC
Yes. Asking for a white coffee will give you unexpected results. Asking for a black coffee with milk, while it sounds odd, will get you exactly what you want.

You could ask for an Americano with milk, but I refuse to use that sort of speech when ordering a coffee. And don't get me started on the word 'tall'.

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spacelem August 6 2015, 10:15:31 UTC
I used to work as a barista, and I frequently ask for a black coffee with milk. I seem to always end up getting exactly what I wanted to drink, so it's not such a bad plan.

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spacelem August 6 2015, 12:36:21 UTC
I'd say "uh... like a latte without the espresso shot? Or just hot water with milk?". I'd try to be helpful, and get you what you wanted.

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cartesiandaemon August 5 2015, 15:58:40 UTC
Yeah, I think the hypothetical English-speaking person would be better if they understood what the german speaker wanted, but I don't think they're being deliberately stubborn, I think they don't recognise that this word might be interpreted a different way by a non-native speaker ( ... )

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naath August 5 2015, 14:17:50 UTC
There's a cafe here that has *on the menu board* "long black" and "long black with milk". Apparently a "long black" is a way of making a coffee ( ... )

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