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bart_calendar October 5 2014, 11:32:38 UTC
What I wonder from the PornHub stats is why Kardashian is the woman they search for most and not Lohan, Britney or any of the other more famous women with sex tapes.

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andrewducker October 5 2014, 13:34:56 UTC
Maybe they feel they have more in common with Kardashian?

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alitheapipkin October 5 2014, 13:24:57 UTC
The character one makes a good point but it's rather dinted by all four examples of great characters at the bottom being male. Rather 'nicely' further highlights the last panel of the movie trope strip...

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andrewducker October 5 2014, 13:34:34 UTC
Yeah, particularly when the creator of the image has a history of great female characters.

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mathematical fluency woodpijn October 5 2014, 16:23:09 UTC
Interesting.

I think she's probably right - I know I'd have done better in my maths degree if I'd spent time doing lots of example questions until it became natural, rather than coming away from a lecture with a tenuous impression of understanding and leaving it at that.

But OTOH, I have very negative memories of being made to do lots of mindless repetition in secondary-school maths - a page of about fifty variants on x^2 - 5x + 6 = 0 with only the numbers changing, and having to write out every "step" of the working (you think that's a one-step process that you can do in your head? fine, but you have to write four lines of solution for each question anyway). That felt really stupid - either you understand how to solve them or you don't, and if you don't, these exercises aren't going to help you, and if you do, they're going to bore you to tears. It would have been better to build on it, to do more advanced problems which all require solving quadratics as one step in them, and gain practice and fluency that way.

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Re: mathematical fluency andrewducker October 5 2014, 16:46:33 UTC
I also have negative memories. But I'm not capable of distinguishing between "Things that I didn't like doing" and "Things that were no good for me". So I'm prepared to believe that doing the same thing over and over was still useful. Or that it was useful for a bit, but the amount was too much. Or that it wasn't varied enough.

I honestly don't know!

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simont October 6 2014, 08:22:00 UTC
It would have been better to build on it, to do more advanced problems which all require solving quadratics as one step in them, and gain practice and fluency that way.

That's advice I give to people I'm trying to teach to juggle, oddly enough! My usual line is, once you can more or less maintain a basic 3-ball cascade, don't spend ages trying to make it better on its own, but instead start attempting tricks as early as possible, even if they're a bit outside your skill.

Because the quality that makes a shaky cascade into a properly stable one is reliable error correction, and the fastest way to get a lot of practice at error correction is to introduce new and exciting sources of error. So, just as you say, trying more advanced stuff solidifies your grasp of the underlying thing it's based on.

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Re: mathematical fluency cartesiandaemon October 6 2014, 12:46:12 UTC
I was thinking both halves of that. But I assume there's an optimal level of practice which is somewhere between those two extremes? I don't know for sure, but I think when I was younger I did lots of practice at problems which were basically trivial for me because that's what I was supposed to do, and then by A-level when I had some freedom with how much work I did, I automatically went to the opposite extreme and did only enough to understand it once, which I think was a problem after I went to university.

Is there any reason not to suppose that's the case? I'm not quite sure where the optimal level is, but with all sorts of skills, some I'm good at and some I'm not (solving Complex Methods problems, programming, cooking, DIY, etc, etc), I feel like I hit one level of "understanding" when I can do it once, even if that involves a lot of painstaking step-by-step work and referring to a reference example, and another level of understanding when I can do it routinely, am familiar with common variations, and can just do it without ( ... )

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holyoutlaw October 5 2014, 17:58:23 UTC
The movie trope is the Lego movie.

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brixtonbrood October 6 2014, 06:45:30 UTC
I think that trope seems so much of a thing because the Lego Movie copied the plot of the Matrix in minute detail, including the dodgy use of the female lead (Lego Movie is slightly worse because the fact that she ditches her boyfriend at the end for the hero makes her seem like even more of a trophy - although Bad Boyfriend Batman is so funny I almost forgive them).

Pacific Rim is also quoted as a perpetrator in the link but I don't see it at all - the female lead there is a young beginner matched with an old-time expert male.

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marrog October 8 2014, 23:12:30 UTC
I literally just came into the comments here to rant about how Pacific Rim is if anything subverting that trope in an awesome fashion and that that commenter on the tumblr is a moron!

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momentsmusicaux October 5 2014, 18:36:30 UTC
Soo.. In that movie trope, we arrive in a strange place, and we have a woman who's been there for longer than us take care of us, mentor us, until eventually we surpass her.

Hello, Freud!

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